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  • Mike E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • February 28, 1975
    • 5138

    62 with "California Special"

    It certainly does warm my heart to view ebay 4584097499! This care has the special California option 6 taillights!
    In addition to that, with the heavy brakes, special suspension package, and big tank, it has a race history!!!!
    And check out the response to the question on the race history---it was extensively DRAG raced (let's see--24 gallon tank, quarter mile = 96 gpm (not mpg)).
    I'd give the ad an "A" for creativity! I especially appreciate the "restoration" of the gas tank fill cap.
    That's the great thing about ebay--it brings out all these rare cars for us to see!!!!!
    I'll take my tongue out of my cheek and be moving on now.
  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • June 30, 1985
    • 10483

    #2
    Re: 62 with "California Special"

    Reverend Mike, maybe you need to put on your clerical collar and take confession from this seller.
    Dick Whittington

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    • mike cobine

      #3

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      • Joseph T.
        Expired
        • April 30, 1976
        • 2074

        #4
        Re: 62 with "California Special"

        Mike

        I debated with myself about showing the 57 Nassau/Daytona car..in its unrestored condition..even with a second paint over the original race trim white w/blue stripes but the reaction has been overwhelming.

        I think we can all appreciate the time, money and effort it takes to restore these great cars..but there is something about an old warrior that can just take your breath away..especially when you think of the time that has past...and the history involved.

        As a reward for making the decision to show the car publically in its as is condition...GM authorized an internal search of their archives for pictures of the car.

        Last week..I received 600 vintage pictures which included my car and more and 4 vintage films.

        Just when you think you have seen it all..the floodgates open up.

        I have my own personal opinion about different cars and people..but I can tell you that my attitude has changed dramatically since owning this car.

        Everyone..including many of the big names that get bad mouthed..have been helpful...in my research.

        I look forward to showing the car as is as I get the chance and showing the pictures upon approval of GM. I had hoped to bring it to Waco.. but something came up. Now I am looking at the Forida meet...in January.

        Regarding Ebay.. one needs to be very careful..but it certainly has made cars and parts easier to find.

        I guess..I have been more than lucky. In 30 years of Corvetting..I have never been stiffed in getting paid or getting what I asked for.

        Save The Wave!

        Joe Trybulec
        PS..I am working on a nice article to submit to the Restorer!

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        • Joel Falk

          #5
          Re: 62 with "California Special"

          Simply and well said.

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          • Mike E.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • February 28, 1975
            • 5138

            #6
            Re: 62 with "California Special"

            Mike--after finding, owning for 22 years, and restoring the 62 Gulf Oil racer, I certainly am very aware of the value of not being restrictive to "as it left St. Louis". Tne issue that I have is with the fact that you can't have it both ways, which it seems to me that this seller is trying to do. (actually three ways--1) "restored" with custom paint, 2) as it left St. Louis, and 3) with a (drag) race history.) And the assertion that this is a "california special" as if that is a factory option that somehow should increase it's value.
            I'm going to start advertising "Wisconsin special" in my ads--that means that there is scaly rust on the frame! That's as accurate as his assertion because a) it didn't come that way from the factory and b)it's not limited to
            Wisconsin. I'm hoping that that will increase the value. Think it'll work?
            Mike

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            • Mark S.
              Very Frequent User
              • July 31, 1983
              • 660

              #7
              Re: 62 with "California Special"

              Maybe we would want to massage your tagline "Wisconsin special; meaning scaly rust". Some of these Wisconsin cars are protected a lengthy time during the year.

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              • mike cobine

                #8
                Re: 62 with "California Special"

                Mike, I knew you knew that the history expands beyond St. Louis. However, many seem to forget that.

                The real problem is that word "RESTORE". It seems that every car has to be "restored" when usually they have just been rebuilt.

                Also, restore has been changed around in the hobby/business so much, it really is beginning to mean "we rebuilt it to a like-new condition" and not necessarily to a "new like the factory built it".

                Part of that stems from restored race cars. Obviously, they are not restored to how the factory built them, with few exceptions. But are they restored, or not? I'd say your '62 Gulf Oil racer is/was restored. But not to factory condition.

                Another problem is regional differences, something not seen nearly as much today. California and drag racing was as important back then as a lot of road racing in the East. Yet today, many see road racing as important through vintage racing, but look at drag racing as a bunch of kid hot rodders.

                And as usual, eBay ads always stretch the wording in whatever way is necessary to get someone to look. If you don't, you get no hits and you don't sell. I've even been guilty of tossing in the word "Corvette" on a Chevy part just to make the searches hit it. Of course, I do state that it is not a Corvette part, but that is the problem with the eBay searches, and some take it to extreme.

                Sometimes I wonder if it is intentional mistakes or they are just idiots. I have seen some Corvette eBay ads refer to how the car is "just like the day it rolled out off the Detroit assembly line".

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                • mike cobine

                  #9
                  One other thing

                  half of these really "good" ones are sales people ads. Can you really trust a used car salesman?

                  (I'm going to get email on that one!)

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