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  • Don 42616

    C5 Fuel sender

    I took my 2002 in for gauge misreading to Chevrolet agency with 2 weeks left on warranty. They are going to R/R fuel sender. They will have to remove Trans/diff/other chassis parts. Labor alone would be $1000.00!!! Manager said they have replaced 100s of them. He also said the C6 are no better. It seems that with 6 years with a simple eng. error GM would have corrected this. At least my C2 is simple & less trouble. I think that the folks that have no warranty are being ripped off by poor GM design .. Don
  • Clem Z.
    Expired
    • January 1, 2006
    • 9427

    #2
    the new fuel cards are not yet available

    so you will get it repared again. the problem is the sulfur in the fuel. some fuel called "top tier" gasoline will prevent this from happening. i found if i used a off brand gasoline i had the problem but if i used amoco or citgo i had no problems. other cars beside corvettes like MB and lexus have the same problem because they use the same fuel gauge system.

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    • Bernard M.
      Expired
      • August 31, 1994
      • 341

      #3
      Re: C5 Fuel sender

      My '97s fuel sender died twice. It would go to Empty and trigger the low fuel warning. I found as a temporary solution, if I didn't FILL the tank, it would register correctly. I kept the tank between 1/4 and 3/4 for a couple of months without problems, but as soon as I filled the tank it would give me trouble again.

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      • Don 42616

        #4
        Bernard , I think my C2 tank is same

        If the warranty wasn't p/u tab I wouldn't have sender replaced. I think if I filled 3/4 tank it would register correctly??? I'm not sure. I'm not happy re: pulling all the chassis apart. Sounds like trouble down the road.

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        • Jim D.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • June 30, 1985
          • 2883

          #5
          Re: Bernard , I think my C2 tank is same

          Sulphur in the fuel is not the problem. Poor design is. Here is the service bulletin GM has sent out:
          GM has released Service Bulletin #05-06-04-041 - (Jun 14, 2005)

          2003 Corvette (built after Dec 2002)

          2004-2005 Corvette

          Condition:
          Some customers may comment that the fuel gauge is erratic or reads empty when there is fuel in the tank. Also, the DIC may display "Service Fuel System". Upon investigation, the technician may find DTC P0463 set.

          Cause:
          This condition may be due to the following causes:
          -The sender card has insufficient ink and loses electrical contact when the tank is overfilled.
          -Loose or poor connections at the PCM.

          Correction:
          Check the connections at the PCM/ECM using the proper pin drag test. Use care to select the proper pin for testing. Refer to PCM/ECM Connector End Views in SI in order to identify the correct pin. If all connections check good, then replace the left fuel tank level sensor with P/N 88967316. Refer to Left Fuel Tank Sensor Replacement procedure in Engine Controls sub-section of the Service Manual (SI Document ID #13985040).
          Right fuel tank senders are rarely faulty and should only be replaced if diagnostic information specifically indicates replacement of the right fuel tank sender or a DTC P0268 is present.

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          • Don 42616

            #6
            Jim, Thanks for the service bullietin. 6 year prob

            Left & right fuel senders. GM is failing again not to correct a known problem After 6 years..... Don

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            • Clem Z.
              Expired
              • January 1, 2006
              • 9427

              #7
              HIS CAR IS A 02 NOT A 03 *NM*

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              • Clem Z.
                Expired
                • January 1, 2006
                • 9427

                #8
                also do not over fill the tank

                when the pump shutoff happens do not add any more fuel. like i posted above i have owned 3 new C-5s. i never had to get mine repaired i just used the proper fuel and never over filled the tank.

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                • Jim D.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • June 30, 1985
                  • 2883

                  #9
                  Re: HIS CAR IS A 02 NOT A 03

                  Same problem with all of them. GM also denied any problems with steering column locks on 2001's & up stating they fixed the problem with the 2000 model year. GM denied all the other years even though there were documented problems and accidents with the newer models. I just got a RECALL NOTICE for the column lock on my 2001 (thanfully I sold that P.O.S.). GM's motto is to deny all problems until they are forced to acknowledge them (usually through lawsuits). They also never fixed the leaking rear ends or several other problems with the C5's that are showing up on the C6's. Need I go on?

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                  • Clem Z.
                    Expired
                    • January 1, 2006
                    • 9427

                    #10
                    Re: HIS CAR IS A 02 NOT A 03

                    like i posted i owned 3 C-5s and now a C-6 and never had these problems. the steering lock problem is caused by owners locking the wheel and then pulling on the wheel to get out of the seat bending the locking pin. i owned new 59,62,63,64,65 and 66 corvettes and i had more probems with them that any of my C-5s,bad water leaks,broken valve springs,dropped valves,busted rear gears and trans syncros. i am glad you solved your corvette problems by selling,because no sense being unhappy with your purchase

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                    • Dick W.
                      Former NCRS Director Region IV
                      • June 30, 1985
                      • 10483

                      #11
                      Re: HIS CAR IS A 02 NOT A 03

                      Clem, is it possible that the problems with valves, springs, synros, and differentials had something to do with the driver??
                      Dick Whittington

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                      • Clem Z.
                        Expired
                        • January 1, 2006
                        • 9427

                        #12
                        of course not, why would you think that ?? *NM*

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                        • Don 42616

                          #13
                          I must have a lemon C5

                          At 10k miles I had to have 2 new headlight motors, 1 new computer (replaced 2X) & now Fuel sender. I drive well & do not beat it up. I also have 2 midyears. Except for new technology (like AC) I like C2s better. I also think it is awful that U.S cars are losing Market share all over the world. As a GM CEO told a newsman in 1978 re: plastic part in auto tran.breaking at 15K miles. "let them buy a new car" At least since 1978 when I bought a 78 Olds diesel. Sorry, but I do like helpful & smart corvette People like you very much. Don

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                          • Clem Z.
                            Expired
                            • January 1, 2006
                            • 9427

                            #14
                            if it was me and i had this many problems

                            i would dump the car as i do not like to own something i am unhappy with. i guess that is why some guys get a divorced in their lifetime,me i could not afford that so we just celerbrated our 46th. get rid of the cars BUT keep the wife,cheaper that way. they sell lots of other types of cars so why get a ulcer over a car. JMHO

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                            • Chuck S.
                              Expired
                              • April 1, 1992
                              • 4668

                              #15
                              Losing Market Share

                              "As a GM CEO told a newsman in 1978 re: plastic part in auto tran.breaking at 15K miles. "let them buy a new car"

                              That sounds a lot like Marie Antoinette's(sp?) famous quote: "Let them eat cake."...and we know what happened to her. That attitude is precisely why we have gone from a Chevy in every garage back in the fifties to the Toyotas in every driveway situation today. (Who was that t*** back in 1978, anyway, Roger Smith??!!) Those little ankle-biter foreign car companies have turned into Pit Bulls today, and they're gnawing on the General's thighs. Why??...Because they build cars that hardly ever break; and, if they do break during the warranty period, they fix them on their nickel without trying to duck the issue.

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