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Re: I should have mentioned that...
Assuming (ya, I know) that '68s are similar to latr sharks, both tags are held on by poprivets. The one holding the trim tag look very similar to a small headed pop-rivet, whereas the ones holding the VIN tag have a particular 'rosette' shape to the head. Both are available on the market place.Comment
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Re: Trim and VIN tags
I would be concerned a restorer took it upon themself to remove those tags without your knowledge...in fact I would raise hell then shoot em! Can't imagine any "informed" and responsible restorer would have so casually removed your trim tag and VIN tag "for safe keeping" without your knowledge, which is what I pick up from your comment. Unless of course the restoration was so extreme it required replacement of the entire surround of which I would not be privey.
You're now faced with an originality issue and the forever nagging issue that will accompany the history of your 68 "why are these rivets not original?"Tom Russo
78 SA NCRS 5 Star Bowtie78 Pace Car L82 M2100 MY/TR/ConvComment
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Re: Trim and VIN tags
VIN on s/w pillar... I need to replace my w/s frame in my late 68. The issue of the VIN has come to mind and I'm not sure the best way to do this. 1. cut that section out of my original post and save it to section it back into the replacement... or remove the VIN tag and reattach it to the repaired/replaced post with new rivets.Comment
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Re: Trim and VIN tags
Buy the rivets and install the tag on the new frame. TerryComment
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be careful re: the laws in your state
In many states it's actually illegal to have in your posession a VIN tag that's not attached to a vehicle or not attached with the proper rosette rivets. In addition, in many states it's illegal to posess the rosette rivets (i think it's even a felony). If caught with them, you can potentially get nailed for runnung a "chop shop". So, if you're gonna do it, it would be wise to google "rosette rivets" and verify the laws in your state before you do it, or use a restorer in a state where it's legal to get it done right. P.S. most of the rivets sold on e-bay are the later style black ones that are thinner metal, the original style thicker silver ones are very pricey - and you gotta wonder if any lawmen are watching who's bidding.
If interested, you can get more info on this from the Boss Mustang web site.
Good luck,
MarkComment
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Re: be careful re: the laws in your state
It is an interesting topic. I have never been forced to deal with the issue. Usually when it comes to cars, when there is a will there is a way and people seem to find the way more often then not. TerryComment
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Re: be careful re: the laws in your state
The law in Michigan makes an exception to the "thou shalt not remove a VIN plate" requirement when it's necessary to do so to repair or replace the part to which it's attached; I see correct rosette rivets for sale regularly at swap meets - they're not that hard to find.Comment
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Re: be careful re: the laws in your state
Where I live the tag doesn't mean anything, it's the VIN on the frame when push comes to shove. I found that out when I went to change a truck cab. The cab replacement was a repair and I just had to transfer the tag. The way the Ministry of Transportation looks at it is "everything is bolted to the frame".Comment
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Re: be careful re: the laws in your state
Thanks for all the input on this. With everything else original and buying the car from the second owner who has owned it since 1970 the owner history is clear. In New York this is also a pre-title car ( transferable reg only). I believe in NYS you need to contact DMV when you plan to remove the original tag. A rep must be present to see the vin come off or you cannot reuse it. The very LAST thing I want is a reVIN by NYS DMV using their huge blue and gold reflective sticker in my door jam.
Thanks again... I think I'll have do some shopping at Spring Carlisle.Comment
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