1967 Sun Visors

[Kevin M.]

OK I think I can justify that the AC fan on my non AC car could have come from the factory, but I think I'll have a hard time convincing anyone that my convertible came with coupe visors. I just wanted to check here first to see if anybody else has a convertible that had coupe visors from the factory in it. These visors have been on the car since my family has owned it, late 70's, and I can't imagine why anyone would have changed them. These are original visors not repops, I not even sure if repops were made 25 years ago. While I look for the right one's then sell these thought I'd check. Thanks

Kevin

[Robert C.]

Re: 1967 Sun Visors

Kevin, FYI= the repro visors are much thinner than the originals.

[Art A.]

Re: 1967 Sun Visors

Kevin, This is exactly why I have so much heart burn with all of the so called experts who will claim that you have the wrong sun visors-----because it just can't happen....and then spout off some reason. From my experience at Chevrolet Engineering things like your situation can and did happen all the time for lots of different reasons.

Art

[Kevin M.]

Re: 1967 Sun Visors

Art,

I have always respected your opinion over many others because you were there. I will probably leave them in the car, although the design difference is interesting in that it fits cleaner to the header when folded,I kind of like that. In fact as you know at my height with them up or down they don't do much of anything for me.

Kevin

[Robert C.]

Re: TYPICAL factory production!

Art, You sound like you would be a great anomally judge. You've been in this club along time. Have you not judged?

[Art A.]

Re: TYPICAL factory production!

Yes, Bob I have judged----sort of. Years ago I did some national OJing and a little for our Michigan Chapter. Unfortunately, I ran into to many "experts" who knew it all and most of the time didn't even consult the TL or the JM. As I have said in the past putting these cars together, was not a exact science and there were many variables that took place both at the Plant level and at the Engineering level,which most likely cannot and will not ever be documented.
Typical assembly plant manufacturing----GM personnel never called it a factory---was followed in most of the production, however, due to running engineering changes, supplier variables, assembly variables, and the temperament of the line worker that day, **** happened. The first priority was to get the car off the line before the one behind it hit it in the ass----period! In GM's wildest dreams they could not have imagined that a group of people would ever have placed a vehicle under such a unforgiving microscope 40+ years later.

The other thing that bothers me (which most,if not all, of you DON'T know)is that I know that the Engineering Release Notices still exist and it is "THE" GM document that would answer most if not all of the anomaly questions. GM LEGAL STAFF WILL LIKELY NEVER ALLOW RELEASE OF THESE NOTICES so exact documentation of anomalies/variables/changes is an exercise in futility.

Art

[David K.]

Re: 1967 Sun Visors

I don't have my Judging Manual with me at work, but I do have my convertible.
If you can describe the difference between coupe, and convertible sun visors, I can tell you which I have. I didn't realize they were different, and I'd be interested in what the difference is anyway.
My sun visors are the ones that were on the car in the early '70s, and I can't image why anyone would have changed them either.

[John H.]

Re: 1967 Sun Visors

David -

The coupe visors are essentially straight all the way across the edge where they pivot, and are the same width for their full length (except at the inboard ends to clear the inside mirror); the convertible visors are the same at the inboard end, but the straight edge on the pivot side is about 3" shorter, the pivots are closer together, and the outer 3" or so of the visor has a distinct "step" back from the pivot edge and that outer portion of the visor is unsupported and is about an inch narrower than the inboard portion. The convertible visor also has a distinct molded-in offset along the axis between the pivots that's not present in the coupe visors.

Sloppy scan below shows the differences.

[Kevin M.]

Re: 1967 Sun Visors

Quoting from the JG
"The convertible sunshades are of a fitted design with a rounded, full appearance. The coupe sunshades are flat with a firm and hard feel to the touch". My explanation is at the top of the convertible shades, facing the driver in down position, is raised so the shade fits next to the header, the coupe are flat.
Convertible pictured follow link to coupe.

Kevin

Coupe

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[Kevin M.]

Re: 1967 Sun Visors

John beat me too it. By the way my car is DEC 66 ser# 5188.

Kevin

[Kevin M.]

Wait a minute!

I have the right sunvisors! You guys tell me if the judges were wrong. Close up in the next post Gezz, the wrong reinforcements, the wrong visors, strike two. I'm posting the bolt photos later to see if we get strike 3.

Kevin

[Kevin M.]

Re: Wait a minute!

With these two item I'd of had a 98!

Kevin

[Kevin M.]

Re: Wait a minute!

"the outer 3" or so of the visor has a distinct "step" back from the pivot edge and that outer portion of the visor is unsupported" John Hinckley

I guess the "step" is not a prominent as they would of liked to see, but there real factory originals!

Kevin