Goat Hill

[Hank Rossi]

Does anyone have experience with Goat Hill reproduction Starters? Will they score the same as an original.

Thanks,

Hank

[Richard S.]

Re: Goat Hill

What year car??

[Hank Rossi]

Re: Goat Hill

It's a 62.

Thanks

[Rick A.]

Re: Goat Hill

have you checked with John Pirkle!? advertises in the DRIVELINE, Hemmings, etc. no reproductions, but restorations of original equipment such as starter, alternators, gnerators, etc.

website: http://www.johnpirkle.com
telephone: (706) 860-9047
email: pirklesr@juno.com or pirklesr@aol.com

[Hank Rossi]

Re: Goat Hill

Yes, I tried John first. He doesn't have a 62 starter.

Hank

[Dick W.]

Re: Goat Hill

The reproduction starters and alternators usually get detected at NCRS events. There are some variations between originals and reproductions. Just be aware that if you buy one and submit it for judging at NCRS you will probably take a points deduct on originality

[Hank Rossi]

Re: Goat Hill

Dick Thanks,

Would the point deduction be the same as it would be with a non-original service replacement, which is what I have now. I am not trying to fool anyone, and would buy an original starter if I can find one. If anyone on the board has one please contact me.

Thanks,

Hank

[Dennis C.]

The big problem...

...with manual transmission 62 starters is that they seem to be a Corvette only item. Finding one is very, very hard. Pirkle usually has a waiting list a mile long, and then it has to be a date that fits your car. Over the years, he has managed to find 4 '62 starters for me that worked for my cars, date wise. They are expensive as you might imagine. I guess I might buy one from the Goat Man, and keep looking for the "Real Deal". I know this is hard to believe, but some NCRS judges actually have trouble getting under your car far enough to get a real good look at the starter...

[Dick W.]

Re: The big problem...

Be nice now Dennis, some of us are not quite as slim and trim as others

[Marc R.]

Re: The big problem...

Maybe that's the secret--an overweight, myopic judge...hummmm.

[Christopher R.]

1962 Starter Questions

1. What makes the '62 starter so rare? I thought the early manual transmission ones were 1107889. There seems to be plenty of them around. Do Ihave the wrong #?

2. How do you make a repro starter? Are they restamps?

[Dennis C.]

1962 Man Tran Starter # 1107233...

...maybe Corvette only or maybe 409 usage or whatever. They are tough to find. Not sure what the Goat Man does - maybe turn down an original case to lose the unwanted or less saleable numbers and then stamp. Let's just say, I'm sure he will have whatever date you want and for much less frogies than an original.

[Dick W.]

Re: The big problem...

Now Marc, respect your elders!

[Harry Sadlock]

Re: 1962 Starter Questions

Chris, good question. Usually the core is turned. As a result the outside is round and smooth. Normally there is an indentation where the metal is joined at the seam. As a result of turning, the seam is very smooth. There is a difference to the touch, this is a way to tell a repro from an original.

Harry

[Rob Edwards]

Re: 1962 Starter Questions

For what it's worth, after talking with John (who hadn't seen a 233 in a long time, and sold the last one for $450, I think he said), in December I bought a 233 starter from Goat hill for our '62, build date 3/1/62, to replace the '69 Z-28 starter that was dying. Paul said he had a few in stock, asked for my build date, and shipped one right out. I can't comment on the smoothness of the seam, but it's certainly a restamp. It was dated 1 M11 (12/11/61). $241, delivered Fedex Ground. Works like a champ, the car starts much easier (not a great surpise, given the old one).