Need cornputer advice...

[Mike Cobine]

There is an exception to the noise outside

If the house has DSL, there is a heck of a buzz at the telco jack.

When my line got cut, the contract installers came out, installed the new line in the ground, and then plugged in their headset. BUZZZZZ. So they called in a ticket on the lines.

[Terry M.]

The Need for Speed

Once one is used to the speed of DSL or cable there is nothing else.

[Terry M.]

The Need for Speed

Once one is used to the speed of DSL or cable there is nothing else.

[Terry M.]

Re: There is an exception to the noise outside

My DSL kit came with filters to install on all the other phones in the house. There wasn't nearly enough filters, but so far there has been no crosstalk on the other phone lines. The FAX machine still works on the DSL line while I am on-line. I am happy with it.

[Terry M.]

Re: There is an exception to the noise outside

My DSL kit came with filters to install on all the other phones in the house. There wasn't nearly enough filters, but so far there has been no crosstalk on the other phone lines. The FAX machine still works on the DSL line while I am on-line. I am happy with it.

[Dick W.]

Re: There is an exception to the noise outside

FWIW, my DSL speed is 583.7 with download in 14.4 seconds. About 1/2 of Terry's. FYI Starband would run about that on upload and 150-200 kbs on download. Still a lot better than dial up. I use dial-up on the road and almost go to sleep while waiting for some of the web pages to download.

[Dick W.]

Re: There is an exception to the noise outside

FWIW, my DSL speed is 583.7 with download in 14.4 seconds. About 1/2 of Terry's. FYI Starband would run about that on upload and 150-200 kbs on download. Still a lot better than dial up. I use dial-up on the road and almost go to sleep while waiting for some of the web pages to download.

[Dave McDufford]

DSL Faster than T-1

My DSL showed 1.8 megabits per second and 4.6 seconds to download a 1 meg file. T-1 is 1.54, I am impressed for 29.95 a month.

Dave

[Dave McDufford]

DSL Faster than T-1

My DSL showed 1.8 megabits per second and 4.6 seconds to download a 1 meg file. T-1 is 1.54, I am impressed for 29.95 a month.

Dave

[Jack H.]

Remember another gossamer distinction!`

Modems are rated for 'bps' operation (bits per second) and they use a isosynchronous converters (through aways the ASCII start/stop bits and send actual 8-bit data through the pipeline, then reproduce the start/stop bits at the receiving end). That's an automatic 20% speed differential compared to most test labs and speed check services who report throughput in 'bs' (bytes per second)!

Often, you have to move heaven and earth to get a tester/test service to actually define the dimensions they're using to measure speed, but it typically boils down to bytes/second. Why? Well, they're sending previously made files from disk and they have a file length byte count to work with (data is stored on disk in 8-bit characters vs. the ASCII transmission format of 10-bits/character) and they simply measure the transit time of the file across the link to compute information interchange.

But, the modem ACTUALLY deals with 10 bit/character data (input and output) and that's it true information handling basis....

[Jack H.]

Remember another gossamer distinction!`

Modems are rated for 'bps' operation (bits per second) and they use a isosynchronous converters (through aways the ASCII start/stop bits and send actual 8-bit data through the pipeline, then reproduce the start/stop bits at the receiving end). That's an automatic 20% speed differential compared to most test labs and speed check services who report throughput in 'bs' (bytes per second)!

Often, you have to move heaven and earth to get a tester/test service to actually define the dimensions they're using to measure speed, but it typically boils down to bytes/second. Why? Well, they're sending previously made files from disk and they have a file length byte count to work with (data is stored on disk in 8-bit characters vs. the ASCII transmission format of 10-bits/character) and they simply measure the transit time of the file across the link to compute information interchange.

But, the modem ACTUALLY deals with 10 bit/character data (input and output) and that's it true information handling basis....

[Michael H.]

Re: Remember another gossamer distinction!`

Ok, now I'm completely confused and far beyond what little I do know about all of this. (and too old to learn) I use the test only to compare one server to another. The end result numbers are always a pretty accurate way for me to establish a level of performance from one server to another. I agree, their probably far from accurate but they're consistant. I've found that speed test results in the 25kbs to 35kbs range are typical and a dialup system that will deliver that will at least function at a fair rate. The 40kbs that Dennis is getting is above normal for dialup so he should at least be able to DL pages in a reasonable amount of time. That's why I have to wonder if there are things in his computer that are causing problems. Would probably be a good idea to have a look at "processes" in Windows task manager to see exactly what's going on inside. Thanks Jack,

Michael

[Michael H.]

Re: Remember another gossamer distinction!`

Ok, now I'm completely confused and far beyond what little I do know about all of this. (and too old to learn) I use the test only to compare one server to another. The end result numbers are always a pretty accurate way for me to establish a level of performance from one server to another. I agree, their probably far from accurate but they're consistant. I've found that speed test results in the 25kbs to 35kbs range are typical and a dialup system that will deliver that will at least function at a fair rate. The 40kbs that Dennis is getting is above normal for dialup so he should at least be able to DL pages in a reasonable amount of time. That's why I have to wonder if there are things in his computer that are causing problems. Would probably be a good idea to have a look at "processes" in Windows task manager to see exactly what's going on inside. Thanks Jack,

Michael

[John H.]

Re: Michael: Speed Test Results...

Terry, I have both; I use AOL, with their "BYOA" (Bring Your Own Access) service ($15/mo.), with cable at home - Comcast cable provides the high-speed access, where I can either use IE as my browser (and a Comcast e-mail address for my research groups), or punch up AOL Broadband for my regular stuff. When I travel, I have AOL dial-up access if the hotel doesn't have high-speed internet, or AOL or Comcast if they do.

[John H.]

Re: Michael: Speed Test Results...

Terry, I have both; I use AOL, with their "BYOA" (Bring Your Own Access) service ($15/mo.), with cable at home - Comcast cable provides the high-speed access, where I can either use IE as my browser (and a Comcast e-mail address for my research groups), or punch up AOL Broadband for my regular stuff. When I travel, I have AOL dial-up access if the hotel doesn't have high-speed internet, or AOL or Comcast if they do.