'69 Baldwin-Motion

[Jeremy Hedges]

I ran across a guy that has a baldwin -Motion '69 coupe. Is there an easy way to tell if it is original without paying $15,000 to Joel Rosen? And also, would the car have the original engine if it was a baldwin-motion 427 correct car? It is a gt with the headlights in the fender.

Jeremy Hedges
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[Mark #28455]

Re: '69 Baldwin-Motion

It is my understanding that all the original cars were purchased from Baldwin Chevrolet, so check the tank sticker and verify the original dealer if possible.
Good luck,
Mark

[Mark #28455]

Re: '69 Baldwin-Motion

It is my understanding that all the original cars were purchased from Baldwin Chevrolet, so check the tank sticker and verify the original dealer if possible.
Good luck,
Mark

[Jack H.]

Re: '69 Baldwin-Motion

Baldwin was also a general purpose Chevy dealer.... Having a tank sticker that documents Baldwin as the ordering source will NOT confirm a given car was selected by Baldwin for conversion to a 'Motion' car. It will only 'modestly' confirm the TANK that sticker was on was a car originally shipped to Baldwin.

In my mind that's NOT sufficient evidence that a given car truly was a Baldwin 'Motion' conversion vehicle to a SERIOUS buyer. In this case, absent other compelling evidence (prior owner affidavits, original bill of sale, Etc.) you're 'stuck' with paying the fee Baldwin asks in order to obtain serious/compelling proof of origin....

Welcome to life in the 'fast' lane!

[Jack H.]

Re: '69 Baldwin-Motion

Baldwin was also a general purpose Chevy dealer.... Having a tank sticker that documents Baldwin as the ordering source will NOT confirm a given car was selected by Baldwin for conversion to a 'Motion' car. It will only 'modestly' confirm the TANK that sticker was on was a car originally shipped to Baldwin.

In my mind that's NOT sufficient evidence that a given car truly was a Baldwin 'Motion' conversion vehicle to a SERIOUS buyer. In this case, absent other compelling evidence (prior owner affidavits, original bill of sale, Etc.) you're 'stuck' with paying the fee Baldwin asks in order to obtain serious/compelling proof of origin....

Welcome to life in the 'fast' lane!

[G B.]

Are you serious?

About ten years ago, I heard Rosen's verification fee was $1,500 or so. Is he really asking $15,000 these days?

[G B.]

Are you serious?

About ten years ago, I heard Rosen's verification fee was $1,500 or so. Is he really asking $15,000 these days?

[Jeremy Hedges]

Re: Are you serious?

Yes, $15,000 is what I have been told.

[Jeremy Hedges]

Re: Are you serious?

Yes, $15,000 is what I have been told.

[Gary S.]

Re: Are you serious?

I am with Jerry on this. I read an article where it stated Rosen's fee was $1500. Did you hear the $15000 from Rosen or just word of mouth? $15000 for documentation is absurd but a true Motion car would be worth it, imho. If the figure is indeed $1500, you ought to make a deal with the seller. If the car turns out to be a Motion car, you will pay the $1500. If it is not, you split the fee with him! Fair?
Gary

[Gary S.]

Re: Are you serious?

I am with Jerry on this. I read an article where it stated Rosen's fee was $1500. Did you hear the $15000 from Rosen or just word of mouth? $15000 for documentation is absurd but a true Motion car would be worth it, imho. If the figure is indeed $1500, you ought to make a deal with the seller. If the car turns out to be a Motion car, you will pay the $1500. If it is not, you split the fee with him! Fair?
Gary

[Jeremy Hedges]

Re: Are you serious?

Maybe I misunderstood the fee from Rose. I will see the owner of the car again today and ask him. The car is not for sale, it is a project that has been setting for 20+ years. I just would like to know if he is correct about the car.

Jeremy

[Jeremy Hedges]

Re: Are you serious?

Maybe I misunderstood the fee from Rose. I will see the owner of the car again today and ask him. The car is not for sale, it is a project that has been setting for 20+ years. I just would like to know if he is correct about the car.

Jeremy