Timing cover Oil slinger for 60 Vette

[Dave #34924]

Using the motors manual to remove and replace timing cover, they refer to an oil slinger...I dont seem to have this part, they make it seem important, the only identifying marks are 9 67 stamped into the timing cover. Am i to assume that the 67 means 1967 and they no longer used an oil slinger? Will this setup be fine in my 283?

[Roy B.]

Re: Timing cover Oil slinger for 60 Vette

The oil slinger is a cup washer looking thing that goes on the crank between the gear and spacer before you install the timing cover and is held by the balancer . The purpose is to help keep engine oil away from the timing cover SEAL.

[Dave #34924]

Re: Timing cover Oil slinger for 60 Vette

Now I am getting confused, what spacer, where can i see a picture of this, as i said, my gears are not perfectly in line, maybe i am missing something!!!Can that slinger be purchased?

[Mike M.]

Re: Timing cover Oil slinger for 60 Vette

go to paragon catalog for pic of the spacer which was necessary on c-1's due to the corvette unique motor mount spaced between the water pump and engine case. the sapcer is the same thickness as the motor mount and its use allows the harm bal pully to aligh correctly with the water pump pulley. mike

[Dave #34924]

Re: Timing cover Oil slinger for 60 Vette

Ok Mike,I am looking at it,I had neither the spacer or the slinger. My belts seemed to be good at the time, but that was 3 lonnnnggggggg years ago, will it matter if i get these parts what timing cover i have, as i am not sure this cover is original for this engine, also, my dampener is press fit only, no bolt in the front, hopefully the spacer does not hold it back from fully seating, I seem to rememberwhen i took the pulleys off, something about a spacer underneath the pulley, time to look at old notes and parts bags.

[Roy B.]

Re: Timing cover Oil slinger for 60 Vette

Makes NO difference which cover you use, balancer will be OK

[Mark #28455]

What year is your engine?

In a previous post, you said this is not a numbers matching car. Not all small block engines use a spacer and slinger. Before you go any further, look at the casting numbers and dates on the block, heads, even crank to verify what you really have so you get the right replacement parts.
Good luck,
Mark

[John M.]

Re: Timing cover Oil slinger for 60 Vette

Dave,
Any small block engine you use will need the spacer if you are using the original mount setup. The spacer was the same thickness as the motor mount, and kept the belt running straight. The motor mount spaced the water pump out by about 3/16" and the balancer spacer is the same thickeness. It moves the bottom pulley out the same distance as the water pump pulley. The oil slinger was discontinued by 1960, but no changes were made to the seal, so my best guess is that the General discovered that they were not necessary.

Regards, John McGraw

[Dennis C.]

In my opinion,

your application requires the 1/8" spacer, but did not utilize the oil slinger.

[Dave #34924]

Re: What year is your engine?

Hey Mark
Well it is Christmas day, so Happy Holidays to you, and i am going nuts with this motor of mine, you have a very good point about the motor, that is why i asked if it makes a difference if i put the slinger and spacer washer in, even though, they were not there upon dissassembly, and as i said, the pulley/ belt alighnment seemed to be OK, but that was over 3 years ago, and i never really looked that close, I started taking it apart after only driving the car for 4 months.
I am not sure of this engine at all: My VIN # is 00867S103440

My casting # is T 3756519

date code is E2259

Crankshaft # is 3815822

The front pad #'s have been machine off!!
I am using the noland adams book, corvette by the #'s, and chevy by the #'s...it looks as though my car is a early Feb car but it looks as though the block was made, May of 59.......The block was used in 59 - 61, I dont understand the T in front of the casting #, it also has a 1GM above the casting #,...the back of the block has a H-4 519 and a T under the H-4, this is all on the back of the block, behind the flywheel. The crankshaft gets real confusing, the # indicates 55-59and62-67 283, steel, but the back flange shape does not match a 283, it is perfectly round with a cutout on 1 side???
If the front snout on all the crankshafts are the same dimension lengthwise, then i will just buy the parts and install them and call it a day. What are your thoughts on this mess?
I also went looking for camshaft # only because i would like to know what is in the car, but i think you need to pull it out top find the #'s, the book does not say, just tells you what the #'s mean. Are there any dangers to pulling the cam out, reading the #'s, cleaning, lubing and re-installing, it seems like i will be right there when i pull the gears and chain off, heads, lifters, pushrods are all out already, what kind of caution should i use, i am thinking about danger to the cam bearings...........Any help i get will be appreciated, Thanks, Regards,

Dave

[Mark #28455]

Re: What year is your engine?

I have only been building big blocks for the past 20 years, so my memory may be a little rusty. As John said above, your motor should have the spacer to make up for the mounting plate. Your block is a 1959 block (cast at Tonawanda based on the "59" in the date code - I'm told that Flint used a single "9" for the year). If I remember correctly, the cranks were all the same with or without the slinger. I don't know if the balancers were different for the slinger or if it doesn't matter as the slinger was thin - maybe somebody else has the info?

Merry Christmas,
Mark

[John H.]

Re: What year is your engine?

Balancers weren't unique to the engines with the slinger; be sure and use the 1/8" spacer (Paragon) between the balancer and the crank sprocket, and you don't need the slinger. You have a Tonawanda block, which only matters in judging; they weren't used in Corvettes.

[Patrick H.]

Re: What year is your engine?

To clarify, you mean the Tonawanda small block was not used in Corvettes of his vintage.

They were used for a very few cars in 1965 as well as my own personal experience with 1972. Forgot to mention that at the Judging School....

Patrick