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  • Larry Lena

    Gold Cadium Plating

    Anyone have experience with Eastwood's Gold Cad Paint System? I want refinish my headlight and wiper door actuators not sure what to use.
  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • June 30, 1985
    • 10483

    #2
    Re: Gold Cadium Plating

    Not sure abput Eastwood's, but all the Cadium Dichromate paints that I have seen are very obvious that it is paint, not plating
    Dick Whittington

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    • Jack H.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 1, 1990
      • 9906

      #3
      Agree!

      Dick's right on...paint is paint and while the Eastwood kit produces a clone finish, it's obvious to any knowledgeable judge that's it's not factory original gold dichromate.

      So, if you just want to 'pretty' up the exterior for your satisfaction, go ahead and use the Eastwood kit. On the other hand, if you want the correct factory original finish, either send your actuators out to a plating house or buy fresh reproduction actuators....

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      • Gary S.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • July 31, 1992
        • 1632

        #4
        Re: Agree!

        I agree with Jack on this. The Eastwood looks exactly like paint and nothing else. It will clean up your actuators nicely but it won't make ANYONE think is real cad!

        Gary

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        • dick foehringer

          #5
          Re: Agree!

          it also scratches if you breathe on it. dont waste your money

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          • Larry Lena

            #6
            Re: Agree!

            Thanks guys, do you know any platers?

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            • Jeffrey S.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • May 31, 1988
              • 1882

              #7
              Re: Agree!

              Larry:
              I have done exactly what you want to do with your actuaters using the Caswell Plating system. The results were beautiful and real-NOT phony paint. I could write 2 pages on the system but suffice it to say if you want authentic and you want to do it yourself, then investigate this system. If you want more info, e-mail me and I will be glad to help.
              Jeff

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              • Terry F.
                Expired
                • September 30, 1992
                • 2061

                #8
                Re: Agree!

                I don't think anyone does cadmium plating anymore. Not in the U.S. that is. Just a side note,,,,,if you ask a plating outfit if they do it they will sometimes say yes. But, if you ask them if they really mean gold zinc, they will say that is what they really mean. Cad plating is toxic to the brain/body and everything in the environment. Just traces of it will mess your body up in ways that it will never repair itself from. It is concidered a heavy metal. If you weld something that has been cad plated and breath the fumes, you get it in your brain that way also. I believe it was considered a cheaper product than zinc and not as durable (as I recall in my conversations with plating outfits). I know people that can make zinc look very close to cad but the build is different. I would be very careful doing any home cad plating. I have heard of it being done but I am not sure people understand the real risks involved. I personally don't need any more nails in my coffin. Regards, Terry

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                • Jack H.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • April 1, 1990
                  • 9906

                  #9
                  DISAGREE!!!!

                  The old wife's tale of NOBODY doing cad plating in the US anymore is WAY overplayed! For a time, the EPA 'grandfathered' existing plating shops offering cadmium services (including 'gold cad') and has been tightening the rope to minimize/eliminate this 'loophole'.

                  BUT, there's a Catch-22 with our Federal Government here.... Cadmium is one of the FEW plating techniques officially recognized by the FAA for use in aircraft propeller applications and props need to be trued and re-certified constantly!

                  So, if you remove the 'blinders' looking in your local yellow pages for plating services and start looking under aircraft, you just might find there's a closely watched, clean as a whistle, steet-legal, shop doing cad plating in your backyard who's pleased as punch to handle your classic car's cad plating needs!

                  Our shop in Denver, is just outside city limits in a hanger at a small, regional, airport. They give EXCELLENT service and prompt turnaround and are HAPPY to execute classic car plating jobs inter-mixed with their aircraft, mainstay, work...

                  Think for a minute... Aircraft props can be HUGE! Sub-letting the work to pre-defined, isolated, regional shops with trans-shipment overhead is a real cost/delay issue. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts, you'll find a competent cad platter in your back yard IF you change your mind from thinking el cheapo automotive platter to thinking aircraft specialty platter....

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                  • Chris H.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • April 30, 1990
                    • 817

                    #10
                    Re: Agree!

                    J & L Plating in Hazel Park (just north of Detroit) does Cad plating. Not sure if they can do the gold hue.

                    chris

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                    • Eugene B.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • May 31, 1988
                      • 710

                      #11
                      Re: Two more choices

                      Gents,
                      I had my manifold heat shields cadmium plated by Millcreek Metal Finishing in Erie, PA. They can also apply various chromate finishes.

                      Another place to call is Imperial Plating Company in Springfield, IL. I have their business card marked with zinc and cad plating, but I have never used them.

                      Hope the contact info is helpful.

                      Regards,
                      Gene

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                      • Dennis A.
                        Expired
                        • April 30, 1999
                        • 1010

                        #12
                        Re: DISAGREE!!!!

                        Jack...

                        You are right on...Our military still requires Cad Plating on there component parts, as it still is the only plating that will meet salt spray requirements. Just about ever supplier in this market plates or has a source for plating Cad.

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                        • Justin N.
                          Expired
                          • February 1, 2004
                          • 318

                          #13
                          Re: My Choice

                          Larry,
                          I used 'Van Nuys Plating' in the L.A. area. It's at 14611 Bessemer st. Van Nuys, CA 91411 (818)785-5885. I brought them a box of parts and was charged a $50/per box fee. She sort of 'eyeballs' the amount. It's a per plating run charge for each type. Each run of plating, gold cad, silver cad, chrome, etc is $50. Quick turn around, friendly, and very knowledgeable. While working for the largest vintage Mustang parts manufacturer in the U.S., we would send cases of AUVECO bolts to have them plated for concourse judging. They have been consistent and professional for the two years I have been using them!

                          Justin #41362

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                          • Terry F.
                            Expired
                            • September 30, 1992
                            • 2061

                            #14
                            Re: Disagree!

                            It makes sence that it is being done somewhere. I can see its application in aircraft and military. Later, Terry

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                            • Larry Lena

                              #15
                              Re: Gold Cadium Plating

                              Is the clutch cross shaft gold cad also?

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