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  • Michael F.
    Very Frequent User
    • January 1, 1993
    • 745

    help on tie down straps

    what type do i need, 5,ooo, 10,000 or 20,000 or ?? rating and exactly what does that rating mean to those who want to strap a car on a trailer? thanks.
    Michael


    70 Mulsanne Blue LT-1
    03 Electron Blue Z06
  • Terry M.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • September 30, 1980
    • 15595

    #2
    Re: help on tie down straps

    Michael,

    Most folks use 2 inch wide 10,000 lb rated retcheting tie down straps.

    In the last month or so there was a thread regarding how to attach the tie-downs to the vehicle. There were a lot of opinions expressed.

    I just made a purchase of tie-down hooks (R-hooks) from the below linked company. It was easy for me -- I drove there.




    Cargo Equipment Corporation
    Terry

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    • Terry M.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • September 30, 1980
      • 15595

      #3
      Re: help on tie down straps

      Michael,

      Most folks use 2 inch wide 10,000 lb rated retcheting tie down straps.

      In the last month or so there was a thread regarding how to attach the tie-downs to the vehicle. There were a lot of opinions expressed.

      I just made a purchase of tie-down hooks (R-hooks) from the below linked company. It was easy for me -- I drove there.




      Cargo Equipment Corporation
      Terry

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      • Jerry P.
        Frequent User
        • September 30, 1989
        • 85

        #4
        Re: help on tie down straps

        Terry... which ones are "R" hooks that work on a mid-year.... # Please

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        • Jerry P.
          Frequent User
          • September 30, 1989
          • 85

          #5
          Re: help on tie down straps

          Terry... which ones are "R" hooks that work on a mid-year.... # Please

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          • Terry M.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • September 30, 1980
            • 15595

            #6
            Re: help on tie down straps

            I bought a cluster hook (actually four of them) CE8171-1. This cluster consists of an R-hook (GM & Chrysler, T-Hook (Ford), and J-Hook (Import). I would have bought a separate R-hook, but they didn't have one separate.
            I already have ratcheting straps, or I would have bought a strap with the cluster hooks at one end and a snap hook at the other. I believe these folks will make any kind of strap you want.
            Terry

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            • Terry M.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • September 30, 1980
              • 15595

              #7
              Re: help on tie down straps

              I bought a cluster hook (actually four of them) CE8171-1. This cluster consists of an R-hook (GM & Chrysler, T-Hook (Ford), and J-Hook (Import). I would have bought a separate R-hook, but they didn't have one separate.
              I already have ratcheting straps, or I would have bought a strap with the cluster hooks at one end and a snap hook at the other. I believe these folks will make any kind of strap you want.
              Terry

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              • Mike Cobine

                #8
                Re: help on tie down straps

                Depending on the manufacturer, they can mean the maximum safety deadlift weight, or the breaking weight. That is an important difference if you are using them as slings to lift heavy weights.

                However, any of these is more than enough to tie a car down if you use four straps, two on each end. After all, two 5000 lb straps is 10,000 lbs of deadlift.

                Still, if you are in an accident (no one ever plans or wants that), you run into those old rules about mass and acceleration and force, and if the crash if right, you could accelerate (decelerate actually) the car enough as to get the force above that. And so many use 10,000 lb straps with the idea no one is ever going to decelerate a Corvette enough to generate 20,000 lbs of force.

                Of course, someone will also jump in and say that because the straps are attched on a diagonal and not straight, you are into the vectors and the forces are greater and lesser and different directions and so on.

                Anyway, many feel safe with two 5000 lb straps on each end, others with two 10,000 lb straps on each end, and still others probably opt for the two 20,000 lb straps (or they stole them from a truck company or an industrial warehouse).

                Also, do the usual search in the archives for tie downs and for trailering and you'll see a lot of opinions and a lot of good experience.

                Just don't use the 1 inch "10,000 lb" straps from K-Mart. Remember, in straps, you get what you pay for. There are a lot of paper thin straps that may hold that force one time, and then there are the thick heavy duty ones that can hold that force over and over and over.




                Trailering Your Corvette

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                • Mike Cobine

                  #9
                  Re: help on tie down straps

                  Depending on the manufacturer, they can mean the maximum safety deadlift weight, or the breaking weight. That is an important difference if you are using them as slings to lift heavy weights.

                  However, any of these is more than enough to tie a car down if you use four straps, two on each end. After all, two 5000 lb straps is 10,000 lbs of deadlift.

                  Still, if you are in an accident (no one ever plans or wants that), you run into those old rules about mass and acceleration and force, and if the crash if right, you could accelerate (decelerate actually) the car enough as to get the force above that. And so many use 10,000 lb straps with the idea no one is ever going to decelerate a Corvette enough to generate 20,000 lbs of force.

                  Of course, someone will also jump in and say that because the straps are attched on a diagonal and not straight, you are into the vectors and the forces are greater and lesser and different directions and so on.

                  Anyway, many feel safe with two 5000 lb straps on each end, others with two 10,000 lb straps on each end, and still others probably opt for the two 20,000 lb straps (or they stole them from a truck company or an industrial warehouse).

                  Also, do the usual search in the archives for tie downs and for trailering and you'll see a lot of opinions and a lot of good experience.

                  Just don't use the 1 inch "10,000 lb" straps from K-Mart. Remember, in straps, you get what you pay for. There are a lot of paper thin straps that may hold that force one time, and then there are the thick heavy duty ones that can hold that force over and over and over.




                  Trailering Your Corvette

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                  • Mike Cobine

                    #10
                    Oops

                    you could accelerate (decelerate actually) the car enough

                    I meant:

                    you could accelerate (decelerate the trailer actually) the car enough

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                    • Mike Cobine

                      #11
                      Oops

                      you could accelerate (decelerate actually) the car enough

                      I meant:

                      you could accelerate (decelerate the trailer actually) the car enough

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                      • Lyle Chamberlain

                        #12
                        Re: help on tie down straps

                        Keep in mind that any hook into an old frame can pull out at some point as I have seen the holes pulled thru on Corvettes. I tie down with tire bonnets and the suspension on your Corvette can work close to driving it if needed. I have rode in my 5th wheel just to see how much the car moves and it is moving all the time. Some will say this wears on the parts but tied down tight can cause other problems. Lyle PS Sams Club has 2" web straps the cheapest.

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                        • Lyle Chamberlain

                          #13
                          Re: help on tie down straps

                          Keep in mind that any hook into an old frame can pull out at some point as I have seen the holes pulled thru on Corvettes. I tie down with tire bonnets and the suspension on your Corvette can work close to driving it if needed. I have rode in my 5th wheel just to see how much the car moves and it is moving all the time. Some will say this wears on the parts but tied down tight can cause other problems. Lyle PS Sams Club has 2" web straps the cheapest.

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