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  • Verle R.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • March 1, 1989
    • 1163

    77 Charging problem

    I am helping a friend with his 77.

    The car was bought as a derelict, missing the engine and accessories. An engine with accessories was acquired and rebuilt. The engine compartment wiring harness was uncut and in good condition. Originality was not a consideration so Delco remanufactured alternator and starter were purchased, new battery and battery cables.

    The alternator ate two belts and finally burned up. It was replaced on warranty and the second alternator burned up while eating belts. It too was replaced on warranty and the third alternator went bad. I took it to an automotive electric shop to be checked. The regulator had failed high. The shop said they had never seen that before. They took the alternator apart, tested the individual parts and found the regulator and diode trio were both bad. Both were foreign manufacture. I purchased new Delco regulator and diode trio, reassembled the alternator and installed it with a fuse in the charging circuit. It worked properly for several days then started to exhibit symptoms of over charging (blew the fuse).

    During all this we spent considerable time trying to trace and diagnose the problem. The starter was replaced with another Delco remanufactured part, the battery and cables were replaced. The ground cable was checked, cleaned and moved to different locations. All fuses were removed and the car was started with a remote starter and jumper wire for ignition. While running with everything disconnected the alternator overcharged. The battery was fully charged with a commercial charger and the alternator overcharged.

    Any ideas or suggestions gladly accepted and straws grasped.

    Verle
  • Jack H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 1, 1990
    • 9906

    #2
    Re: 77 Charging problem

    If alternator is trying to charge a FULLY charged battery (you can only really tell with voltmeter on the battery and a current meter looking at the alt output), then the alt's internal v-reg 'thinks' it sees the need to deliver charge to pump up the battery. Now, it's a matter of backtracking in the wiring harness to see why the alt's internal v-reg 'sees' a low battery condition that isn't true AND/OR pulling the alt to have it bench tested to make sure the internal v-reg is functioning properly.

    If the car was drivable, any decent auto electric shop could wheel out their portable charging system analyzer and diagnose the problem (diagnose not find & repair) in about 20-minutes....

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    • Verle R.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • March 1, 1989
      • 1163

      #3
      Re: 77 Charging problem

      Jack,

      I have tested with a voltmeter on the battery and a current meter on the alternator at the same time. We have exhaustively tested, disconnected and taken apart the wiring harness. I took the alternator to an auto electric shop. Each individual component tests ok, connections test good using a digital VOM. Still getting overcharge.

      Verle

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