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  • Richard T.
    Very Frequent User
    • February 1, 1979
    • 858

    65 KNOCK OFFS UPDATE

    I just wanted to thank every one who responded to my question last week about the 65 knock off wheels. When I went to see them what I found was a set of 4 genuine 1966 knock offs. They have the KH markings and date codes inside and overall condition is real good . The only negative is that there were only 3 spinners and they are repos. I bought the set as the real wheels are pretty rare and will decide what to do with them later. Thanks again ! Rich #2276
  • Tom B.
    Very Frequent User
    • February 1, 1994
    • 779

    #2
    Re: 65 KNOCK OFFS UPDATE

    Rich,

    Congratulations. Always glad to know good info will pay dividends. Hope it worked for your price. Tom #24014

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    • Tom B.
      Very Frequent User
      • February 1, 1994
      • 779

      #3
      Re: 65 KNOCK OFFS UPDATE

      Rich,

      Congratulations. Always glad to know good info will pay dividends. Hope it worked for your price. Tom #24014

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      • Tom B.
        Very Frequent User
        • February 1, 1994
        • 779

        #4
        Just curious but...

        Rich,

        Were the metal "cone" covers the "brushed" version, like I left out mentioning until later in a supplemental post? Also, was the D-49985 number under the K-H marking, and enclosed in an oblong circle? Finally, concerning the "deep" metal die date stampings you should have observed, were they 65 or 66? Those things would be the distinguishing marks between 65 and 66. Just curious, and if you want you can e-mail me. Tom #24014

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        • Tom B.
          Very Frequent User
          • February 1, 1994
          • 779

          #5
          Just curious but...

          Rich,

          Were the metal "cone" covers the "brushed" version, like I left out mentioning until later in a supplemental post? Also, was the D-49985 number under the K-H marking, and enclosed in an oblong circle? Finally, concerning the "deep" metal die date stampings you should have observed, were they 65 or 66? Those things would be the distinguishing marks between 65 and 66. Just curious, and if you want you can e-mail me. Tom #24014

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          • Richard T.
            Very Frequent User
            • February 1, 1979
            • 858

            #6
            Re: Just curious but...

            Tom, Yes the cones were brushed or satin 66 type. I'll check the other markings tonight and let you know. Rich

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            • Richard T.
              Very Frequent User
              • February 1, 1979
              • 858

              #7
              Re: Just curious but...

              Tom, Yes the cones were brushed or satin 66 type. I'll check the other markings tonight and let you know. Rich

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43203

                #8
                Re: 1970 Tie Rod Tube Finish

                Jeff-----

                The entire steering assembly including tie rod ends, tie rod sleeve ("tube"), idler arm, and relay rod were delivered to St. Louis as a complete assembly after their production at the old Chevrolet-Buffalo steering gear plant. Prior to shipment from this plant the assemblies were "mitted" or otherwise coated with a sticky, blackish asphaltic coating. The tie rod ends were more-or-less protected by cardboard tube-like protectors which were removed at St. Louis. As far as I know, this process was the same for all 63-82 Corvettes. The coating, however, was not accurately and precisely applied so some "holidays" may be found.

                Prior to application of the coating, I don't think that any of the components of the steering assembly were otherwise painted.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Ron Peters

                  #9
                  Re: Good Information Duke. Thanks!

                  Based on my experience: 30/30 is a good all-around setting for normal operations, but you may wish to set them differently on occasion, for example: for a lot of low speed running (parades, cruises, etc) set @ 32 to reduce overlap and duration slightly (just don't run the engine up over 5000); for a lot of high speed running set @ 28 for more duration and overlap and to soften the acceleration/deceleration of the valves as they are opened and closed. Bear in mind that if you set them at 27 cold they'll be about 24 or 25 when hot and that my be too little which will reduce the "seat" time of the valves, which is when they cool therefore you risk burning them. I recommend setting all valve lash when hot, using the oil deflector clips and maybe even a cut-down valve cover to prevent oil running down side of engine. Also, I use new wire style feeler gauges to avoid errors from flat feelers "bridging" across the worn ends of the rockers. Do it right, you'll be proud of your work!!

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                  • Terry M.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • September 30, 1980
                    • 15590

                    #10
                    Terry

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • February 1, 1988
                      • 43203

                      #11
                      Re: 1970 Tie Rod Tube Finish

                      Terry-----

                      I don't think that there's any real difference in the source of the steering assemblies. The "Chevrolet-Buffalo" that I described in my previous post I think was also known as, or later known as, a Saginaw Division plant. It is also possible that there were two different plants that were closely located. In any event, if I mis-identified the name, I was referring to the steering gear plant located on, I believe, DeLavan Avenue in Buffalo. It is now a facility of American Axle and Manufacturing, the GM "spin-off" company.
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Terry M.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • September 30, 1980
                        • 15590

                        #12
                        Where? *TL*

                        I had the impression that he said the Corvette steering gear came from a plant in or near Saginaw MI. He lived in that area and worked there. I suppose I may have jumped to conclusions and only their engineering is there, but I don't think so.

                        Are you saying Buffalo NY? I know of the axel plant there. But if Corvette steering linkage was made there it is counter to what I understood him to say.

                        I guess there is always a chance that it all depends on what year we are talking about? Again, so many questions that I failed to ask. Ah if only I could live my life over....

                        Terry


                        Terry

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                        • Joe L.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • February 1, 1988
                          • 43203

                          #13
                          Re: Where?

                          Terry-----

                          Saginaw, MI is the site of most of the operations of what used to be the Saginaw Steering and Gear Division of GM (now a DELPHI division). Saginaw Division plants "dot the landscape" in Saginaw, including one huge complex of plants with a giant Saginaw neon sign. However, there are plants elsewhere, including, in the old days, Buffalo, NY.

                          For some reason, I seem to recall that Corvette steering assemblies (the 63-82 variety) came out of the Buffalo plant. I could be incorrect, though.
                          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                          • Donald S.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • August 31, 1996
                            • 186

                            #14
                            Re: Where?

                            Joe, I believe you are correct. In the mid seventies I had a friend that worked at the forge and he was able to get me some of the rubber grease boots to replace the ones on my '69 that had split. I still have a handful somewhere in my garage. Don Smith #28087

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                            • Terry M.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • September 30, 1980
                              • 15590

                              #15
                              Re: Where? *TL*

                              I have to admit I never asked where the steering assemblies for Corvette were produced. I ass-u-med that because he lived near Saginaw MI, and worked for that division, that was where they were assembled.

                              Terry


                              Terry

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