What are the prerequisites (if any) that one needs to attain before attempting a PV at a Regional? Attaining a Flight Award of any kind or what?
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Rick - 3rd Flight or better at any NCRS judging event gets you a ticket to take a swing at a PV... Good Luck, Dennis -
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Dennis,
that's what I thought, but someone mentioned they thought a TOP FLIGHT was needed and I wanted to be sure - I have attained SECOND FLIGHT at a Chapter event several times - car currently close to being complete body-off and am registered for PV at WildwoodRick Aleshire
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Rick - Also remember, you can attempt a PV @ either a Regional or a National. Over the years, I'd guess a well driven 2nd Flight car with a "hands on" owner has the best chance of passing this test the first time... Again, Good Luck, DCComment
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Dennis,
thanks for the encouragement - now, if I can only get Tony to make sure the car is ready!!!!!!Rick Aleshire
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Rick; not only tony, but you should spend some serious hours behind the wheel of the 63 prior to presenting it to the Augusta midget for P.V. . i usually put at least 500 miles on a restored vette going thru the pv judging sheets multiple times before P.V. 'ing. good luck, mikeComment
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I hate it when Mikie has excellent advice... *NM*
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Good advice, Mike. Then double check all again after arriving at the meet. Murphy always comes along as a passenger.Comment
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Mike,
thanks for the excellent advice! I am hoping to have the car done in time to support Chuck Berge and the MAC Chapter meet. I will use that as an opportunity to drive the car there and back home - about a 4-hour round trip drive. I will use it as a "shake down" trip, as well as having it flight judged before I make the trip to Wildwood.Rick Aleshire
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Excellent Advice Add-On.....
Mike's comments about putting miles on the car and getting familiar/being critical prior to PV are dead nuts on! Most fail PV because either the Corvette Gods are fickle that day or the owner doesn't 'get it'....
Having read the PV manual and put on a critical face is one thing, but actually spending time behind the wheel and DRIVING/USING the car so it isn't a 'fearful/unknown' experience is a big leg up. Reminds me of two of my fellow chapter members.
One had never really driven/used his car and relied on the restoration shop to get it RIGHT. The big day of PV came and for about the first time, the owner sat behind the wheel and operated his car. Things went kinda smooth until the judge asked him to so some things he was unfamiliar with (reset radio push buttons, get the defroster running). He began to get nervous even though the PV judge was being nice, telling him to calm down.
Then, he had to reset the clock. His blood was pumping SO HIGH, he grabbed the set stem and RIPPED it out of the clock!!!!!!!!
Now, this one's for Dennis who mused a 2nd Flight car in good shape with a longtime owner behind the wheel had a better chance of passing PV the first time. Another chapter member was the original owner of his car. He had other Corvettes and just didn't drive the new car very often. Time passed and before he knew it, his 'new' Corvette qualified for Flight Judging. Still, he did nothing about it and more time passed.
Well, we hosted a regional and he decided to bring the 'new car' out. The judges were amazed....where in (*&& did this Corvette come from with only 2900 original miles on it????? The member decided maybe it was time to campaign the car for Mark of Excellence/Bowtie and then go on to Bloomington for Certification/Survivor/Benchmark. Ok, on the NCRS leg of the campaign, he needed to do PV.
No big deal, it was his car, he had no fear, but he was partially deaf in his right ear and wore a hearing aid. On the PV trip, everything went smoothly except the PV judge had to raise his voice and sometimes repeat instructions to compensate for the owner's loss of hearing.
When it came time for the breaking test, the PV judge instructed the owner to hit the brakes, hard, Hard, HARD! The owner finally heard the instruction and pushed the power brake pedal THROUGH the floorboards! The car performed admirably, not grabbing or squirming left/right under decel. BUT, the PV judge was HURLED from his seat and the shoulder harness inertial reel CLICKED into place stopping the progress of the judge's nose roughly 1-inch from the windshield glass.
Hum, that (shoulder harness inertial reel integrity test) wasn't an item on the PV check list.... Yes, owner and judge returned from the road trip amigos and the car passed on its first try. Some say they remember the PV judge making hurried excuses and heading towards the men's room after the owner signed off the score sheet!Comment
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Re: Excellent Advice Add-On..add-on...
Best advice i can give an owner who knows how to operate his car and knows his car is perfect performnance-wise is to go out there and have fun. do your best to scare the hersheys into the judges jockeys,distract him , white knuckkle him etc. they'll never forget ya. mikeComment
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It is one thing to scare the Hersheys out of the PV judge, but you had better be sure he is in a good mood before you try some stunts. I have been on a PV ride into triple digits with a driver I had NO confidence in, and in a car I had less confidence in - he failed. The same experience (not a PV) with Dave McLellan at the wheel of a C3 left me supremely comfortable. I was learning from Dave's driving skills. It is wise to remember that the intent of the PV is to check the performance of the car, not to test the intestinal fortitude of the judge, or the skills of the driver.TerryComment
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and remember, Murphy was an optomist Mike is right. I have prepared several cars for PV's over the years and there is no substitute for driving it to shake down the bugs. It helps to have someone else do the PV check sheet. That way you do not miss anything before you get to the meet.
Trust me from experience, the AUGUSTA MIDGET misses NOTHINGDick WhittingtonComment
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But Terry, have you not experienced the pleasure of seeing a wrap around smile of a driver standing on it? I remember telling one L/88 owner that I needed to see 90% of redline (6500) and at 7500+ telling him that it was enough. His smile was going around his head about twice Just because it took a couple stiff drinks of Gentleman Jack to calm me back down. BTY he passed PVDick WhittingtonComment
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