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  • Roger Coen

    Lacquer paint wanted

    I have a 67 Sunfire yellow car that had a small brush with the side of the garage wall and scraped the paint on the fender seam just above the right front tire. I took in into the body shop that does my work and the Mgr said $1200.00 because there is nowhere to stop the painting so they have to shoot the whole frontend, door to door. He said the new paint they have to use (because of EPA) is so thick that they have to have a cutoff line so it won't show where they stop. He also said lacquer would do a better job and that they would only have to spot the scrape, ie; much cheeper and at the same time better.

    I need help. Anyone got any ideas? Anyone got a small amount of paint to help me out?

    Roger Coen
  • Jack H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 1, 1990
    • 9906

    #2
    Re: Lacquer paint wanted

    Get a second opinion from another (or more) paint shop! You haven't told us whether the car has factory original lacquer, restored original lacquer, or what on it. That makes a difference....

    The special order blend code to use to duplicate the factory original lacquer is given for all '63 and later Corvettes in the preface section of the '72 Corvette Parts Manual available from the NCRS Library, plus M.F. Dobbins documents the same in his 'Fact Book' series. You can take this blend code (or your painter can) and scare up TODAY's equivalent of the factory original lacquer (will NOT be 100% identical formulation but will be darn close) to shoot with.

    Bear in mind, that surface oxidation and 'fade' will have to be matched by the painter 'cutting' this paint with additives to get close to a 'match' and even then there's no guarantee the repair will be 100% undetectable (really depends on the skill of the painter) when the job is done, 30 days later, six months later, Etc.

    What you've been told by your local man about painting in logical segments to hit natural parting lines, is absolutely true. Touching a small segment within a body panel and getting an 'invisible' repair is tough to impossible even if you had some 'touch up' reminants of the current paint that's on the car.

    So, the question here is not where do you get lacquer (that's a known entity that anyone with reasonable experience has the answer to), the question is what quality of repair do you want/need vs. how big is your wallet vs. what level of paint shops do you have available. Not trying to be cute, only REAL.

    If you want 'reasonable' results for lower cost, get another painter's opinion knowing the original paint blend code can be custom ordered from DuPont, Dietzler, et. al. with a simple catalog look-up. If you want 'Top Drawer' results, dig deeper/harder and shoot more surface....

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    • Jack H.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 1, 1990
      • 9906

      #3
      Re: Lacquer paint wanted

      Get a second opinion from another (or more) paint shop! You haven't told us whether the car has factory original lacquer, restored original lacquer, or what on it. That makes a difference....

      The special order blend code to use to duplicate the factory original lacquer is given for all '63 and later Corvettes in the preface section of the '72 Corvette Parts Manual available from the NCRS Library, plus M.F. Dobbins documents the same in his 'Fact Book' series. You can take this blend code (or your painter can) and scare up TODAY's equivalent of the factory original lacquer (will NOT be 100% identical formulation but will be darn close) to shoot with.

      Bear in mind, that surface oxidation and 'fade' will have to be matched by the painter 'cutting' this paint with additives to get close to a 'match' and even then there's no guarantee the repair will be 100% undetectable (really depends on the skill of the painter) when the job is done, 30 days later, six months later, Etc.

      What you've been told by your local man about painting in logical segments to hit natural parting lines, is absolutely true. Touching a small segment within a body panel and getting an 'invisible' repair is tough to impossible even if you had some 'touch up' reminants of the current paint that's on the car.

      So, the question here is not where do you get lacquer (that's a known entity that anyone with reasonable experience has the answer to), the question is what quality of repair do you want/need vs. how big is your wallet vs. what level of paint shops do you have available. Not trying to be cute, only REAL.

      If you want 'reasonable' results for lower cost, get another painter's opinion knowing the original paint blend code can be custom ordered from DuPont, Dietzler, et. al. with a simple catalog look-up. If you want 'Top Drawer' results, dig deeper/harder and shoot more surface....

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      • Jack H.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • April 1, 1990
        • 9906

        #4
        PS

        Per Corvette Parts Book, '67 Sunfire Yellow is:

        Lucite # 4711-L Ditzler # 81540 Rinshed-Mason # A-1828

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        • Jack H.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • April 1, 1990
          • 9906

          #5
          PS

          Per Corvette Parts Book, '67 Sunfire Yellow is:

          Lucite # 4711-L Ditzler # 81540 Rinshed-Mason # A-1828

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