I have a 67 coupe and a 67 convertible. The convertible is a St Louis built body and the coupe is A.O Smith built. The coupe has no trim screw at the upper rear of the door panel and the convertible does. Is this screw randomly applied or is it the coupe/convertible application. Or maybe is it body builder specific? I believe both sets of door panels are original. I realize how redundant this question is but I can't help wondering why one car has this screw and one doesn't. Thank you for your comments in advance.
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Data Point C2 Cpe Door Panel Rear Screw
Glenn - I don't have the answer to your question, but here's some information as a data point. The original door panels on my '67 coupe (St. Louis build) have the screw at the rear. In addition, I have several orphan '67 coupe door panels and all have the hole at the rear for the screw. Pete -
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Just checked, my January built A.O. Smith bodied coupe has the screws.Comment
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Glenn,
------If both your door panels are original to their cars then I think you just have one oddball.Check the door itself on the car without the screws and see if there is a hole there as these holes were probably not pre-punched.Im sure a few snuck thru without the screw but certainly not many.To sum it up,as Pete said,to not have a screw is not a random thing but a rare thing!.......Bill SComment
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I have looked at a lot of 67 door panels over the last few years. I have not seen an original panel lacking the screw. However, that observation does not mean it didn't happen at some time during production.
In a judging situation if the other elements of the door panel indicated it to be an original factory installed unit, lack of the screw would merit a notation, stimulating further study. If the panel had originality issues, a bundled point deduction might be considered influenced by the number of deviations observed.
I am disappointed when someone destroys historically significant minutia in the pursuit of judging points. Genuine anomolies are interesting,
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To all responders... In light of the trend the above responses are taking, I think it is time to ascertain whether or not the 67 Coupe panels are ,in fact, the real thing. I'll try to pull off the panels and look in the next little bit. Can anyone tell me what will define "original " or will it be obvious?? Thank you very much for your input thus far. GlennComment
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SB obvious. The rear of original door panels was molded cardboard + date stamped with rubber ink applicator....Comment
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Glenn,
-------Upon removal you will find a stamped date on the back of an original door panel.If the door panel is original to your car the date should fall into place.If the date seems wrong it can still be an original,just off a different car.Door panels were also available over the counter from Chevrolet.In my experience,these replacements were also stamp-dated.Im not sure if these over the counter replacements had a hole in them when they came out of the GM box.They are sort of the wild card here.
-------Current reproduction door panels are pretty easy to pick.The back will look too new.Look at the cardboard along the bottom.Even with the vapor barrier that cardboard will probably have been compromised somewhat by dampness if original.Also the backboard of the repros is not the same type of cardboard as the originals.It wont have a date,unless people are now duplicating that.The foam will be too hard.Often,although not always,the armrest edge is too square.Al Ks doorpanels have gone through many running changes over the years.At times they have been very,very good.At other times not so good,but they are the best available.
-------Before you go taking the doorpanel without the hole off pull it back just enough to see if there is a hole in the door for a screw going unused.This would tell us that the original door panel is probably not on the car at present..........Hope all this helps...........Bill SComment
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My June '67 A.O. Smith convertible came to me with repro door trim panels and no screws, but when I removed them there was a screw hole on each side in the door inner panel, about 6-1/2" down from the top of the door where the original screws were.Comment
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Finally got a chance to remove the coupe door panel. Looks like it has to be a repro. No dates of any kind. Pretty late model workmanship and definatly not 35 year old cardboard. The strange item here is there is no hole in the rear of the door to give proof to the possibility of a former screw. Now I really don't know. I know for sure the door is original. Looks like an anomily that has no answer. Thanks everyone for your assistance.Comment
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Glenn,
FWIW - been following this thread with some interest. Checked my mid-production-run AO Smith bodied '67 convertible door panels (reproduction and pictures of the original panels that I still have) for the screw. Both have them located about 5" down and mostly hidden by the painted jamb when doors are closed. BTW - as I remember, only one door panel was date stamped. I'll check them later when I have access to the storage if you're interested. Hope this helps with your convertible, but probably not with the coupe.
Good Corvetting,
Kent #6201Kent
1967 327/300 Convert. w/ Air - Duntoved in 1994
1969 427/435 Coupe - 1 previous owner
2006 Coupe - Driver & Fun Car !!!
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What's your VIN? (Range -No need for specific) *NM*
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The coupe vin is 13100 and the vert is 21000 area. I don't have the exact numbers here. I'm going to pull the other coupe panel off tommorow and see if it sheds any light on the suject. Also going to pull a panel off the convertible to give me the exact location to look for the screw hole. this will make sense at some point I'm sure.Comment
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