C2 Paperwork - check out the L78 MSO, etc.

[Wayne M.]

Clem's post on his original paperwork prompts me to return to my favorite subject. I've attached a link to a recently completed eBay auction item -- the remains of a 396 coupe # 22301 (actually just the firewall w/VIN and trim tags) along with its original FL title and the MSO. The seller has correctly determined that it is a 396 by the brake horsepower figure of 53.6 (a 327 would have 51.2, and the 427 escapes me for the moment [Amgwert gave the formula way back]). Also the shipping weight for this particular car is given as 3229 lbs.

Did Art Armstrong include the MSO data base on his search for the holy grail of production records within the bowels of Chevy ? Just who is this St. Louis guy, F. Blandini(o?), Assistant Cashier, who signed the MSO's ?

This MSO info would allow determining of body style, engine displacement, and the (combination of) options to match the weight.




eBay MSO, first title for 396 remains

[Glenn Ochs]

Re: C2 Paperwork -MSO and 1967 L71

I have the a copy of the original MSO for the 67 L71 Vert I own. I am intrigued by how to connect the MSO to the vehicle as well. The weight on mine shows as 3221 and the H.P. SAE is 57.8. Is there a source to co-ordinate these numbers to the vehicle involved? I also wonder if there is a possibility of connecting the invoice number to any piece of paperwork that may come with the vehicle. Once again, thank you in advance for your assistance.

[Craig S.]

Re: C2 Paperwork -MSO and 1967 L71

Glen - you should contact Al Grenning....he has all kinds of information in his paperwork and teaches detailed classes at Bloomington on the MSO vs tank sticker, vs order process..etc etc.....well worth the cost if yo get there....Craig

[Glenn Ochs]

Re: C2 Paperwork -MSO and 1967 L71

Craig... I keep hearing this "Al" guys name but cannot find out how to contact him. Would you have an address - e-mail - or phone number to offer? Thanks Glenn

[John H.]

Re: C2 Paperwork - check out the L78 MSO, etc.

Wayne -

F. Blandino was a manager in the St. Louis Finance Department; the rubber-stamped signature on MSO's was always a Finance guy, as they (very rigidly) controlled issuance of all MSO's.

[Terry M.]

Re: C2 Paperwork -MSO and 1967 L71 *TL*

Glen,
Click on "view user profile" at the top of the page. If you look at Al's profile you will find a link to send him a private message (PM). Anyone who has registered on this board can be contacted in that manner.

[Glenn Ochs]

Re: C2 Paperwork -MSO and 1967 L71

Thank you very much Terry. That is the direction I needed. Why I didn't know it existed is another matter. Glenn

[Brian McHale]

Re: C2 Paperwork - check out the L78 MSO, etc.

Wayne, The H.P. note rang a bell with info I have come across. I have info on 8 cars from the state of Missouri with horsepower ratings of 51 (as is mine 327/300) and a couple showing 57. Interestingly enough 1 shows 48. These are all 67 Corvettes.

[Larry S.]

Re: C2 Paperwork - check out the L78 MSO, etc.

So if I am undestanding this correct,If a person was able to get there hands on there mso. the information on the mso would determine an original big block car or not ?

Also I was under the idea that GM or some one like an insurance company or somebody still has axcess to all mso's on any car sold??
Is this some new discovery?

Lastley I have recently read an article/blurb in a corvette magazine I get (Now I cant find the mag or the blurb )about somebody was working on some corvette history/documentation on our car and was going to compile it and make it available.

Thanks guys what did I miss here?

[Bill W.]

Re: C2 Paperwork - check out the L78 MSO, etc.

WoW ! there could be 4 65 BB 396s with that vin for sale . there are a few people who would build a car around that vin tag. so who ownes the car the guy who builds a car around a tag ? around the frame ? somebody has the title ? and the block could be around .I got a better idea if my car was worth 50,000 i could part it out, rebuild it(i mean restore it) and have 200,000..I wonder if I could have all 4 of them judged at the same show ???? Bill

[Kevin Whiteley]

Re: C2 Paperwork - check out the L78 MSO, etc.

I've heard the same thing about an "archive" of MSO's. I think that the NICB maintains this "archive", but won't release them. I think several years ago, some of the NCRS officers were negotiating with the NICB, but due to several telephone calls from other Corvette owners, the NICB cancelled the chance to look at their info.

Maybe Terry McManmon or someone else with clout (I don't have any) knows.

[Rick A.]

Re: C2 Paperwork - check out the L78 MSO, etc.

so, is this true!? someone actually has a database of ALL MSO's for ALL cars that have been sold in the good ol' US of A!? how do we access this database!?

[Nicholas L.]

Re: C2 Paperwork - check out the L78 MSO, etc.

Does anyone know when G.M. started using the MSO? Thanks.

[John H.]

Re: C2 Paperwork - check out the L78 MSO, etc.

Probably long before we were born, when the states began to require some kind of uniform legal document showing the existence of a new car so dealers could get them registered/titled for the first retail purchaser.

[Art A.]

Re: C2 Paperwork - check out the L78 MSO, etc.

Yep, we looked for MSO's. I don't know who F. Blandini(o?), Assistant Cashier, is.

Art