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  • Mark P.
    Very Frequent User
    • May 13, 2008
    • 934

    C2 - Rear Disc Brake Dust Shields

    Does anyone sell a repro shield with the correct Delco Moraine words, logo and part numbers (3864067-L and 3864068-R) ?

    Do you think if I had mine bead blasted and replated Cad or Zinc they would come out OK ?

    Do most people use repro's or original plates for NCRS judged cars ?
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  • Larry M.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 1, 1992
    • 2688

    #2
    Re: C2 - Rear Disc Brake Dust Shields

    Originally posted by Mark Pellowski (49021)
    Does anyone sell a repro shield with the correct Delco Moraine words, logo and part numbers (3864067-L and 3864068-R) ?

    Do you think if I had mine bead blasted and replated Cad or Zinc they would come out OK ?

    Do most people use repro's or original plates for NCRS judged cars ?
    The answer is yes, they are available. Contact Bair's or Corvette Stainless Steel Brakes. LICS also has some, but they are the more golden colored zinc/cad...which LICS indicates to be correct per their GM prints. But that is for another discussion.

    Richard Fortier (former Paragon owner) does replating of these shields. There are others that do this as well. You could clean them up and send him a few pictures to see if the final plating he would provide would be acceptable to you.

    FWIW: I went with the ones's from Bair's. They are nice...nor perfect, but certainly acceptable. I will probably have Richard F replate my originals in the future. I am NOT removing my reconditioned trailing arms to change shields. That is for my car's next owner to do.

    Larry

    EDIT: It is even possible that Bair's may have re-plated originals if you ask them nicely and have the $$$. But they also have new repros.

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    • Grant W.
      Very Frequent User
      • December 1, 1987
      • 407

      #3
      Re: C2 - Rear Disc Brake Dust Shields

      Originally posted by Mark Pellowski (49021)
      Does anyone sell a repro shield with the correct Delco Moraine words, logo and part numbers (3864067-L and 3864068-R) ?

      Do you think if I had mine bead blasted and replated Cad or Zinc they would come out OK ?

      Do most people use repro's or original plates for NCRS judged cars ?
      Mark
      You would have to check out the stamping of the originals to repops. I think repops are still a little different.

      Do not bead blast the parts. It will leave a sandy finish which is not the same as original. Dip it in Muranic acid do not inhale the fumes. Then see what you have. It is better to have the original pitting and the plating will cover it as best as it can. The areas that are not pitted will leave the original sheen finish like originals.
      Hope this helps.
      Grant

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      • Don H.
        Moderator
        • June 16, 2009
        • 2248

        #4
        Re: C2 - Rear Disc Brake Dust Shields

        Mark,
        I am going to guess that with as much corrosion as you encountered in your T/A assemblies and in the chassis pockets where they mount that your original splash shields are going to be pock-marked like the surface of the moon when you get them clean. Mine were. You are not going to want to re-use them.
        I recommend America's Finest Corvette at (888) 318-3883 for your new shields.

        As I said, I just finished the same project as you are embarking on. I sent a new pair of shields from AFC to the shop I used to build up my T/As, Duntov Motors in TX. AFCs shields are as close as you will find available anywhere. White Cadmium wash finish, and Delco Moraine and part no. stamped the same as original and so you can see it inside the shield. You will like them.

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        • Mark P.
          Very Frequent User
          • May 13, 2008
          • 934

          #5
          Re: C2 - Rear Disc Brake Dust Shields

          Thanks Don. I have seen their Driveline ad for C2 front shields and was wondering if they do rear shields too.

          I'll give them a call.

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43202

            #6
            Re: C2 - Rear Disc Brake Dust Shields

            Originally posted by Don Hooper (50543)
            Mark,
            I am going to guess that with as much corrosion as you encountered in your T/A assemblies and in the chassis pockets where they mount that your original splash shields are going to be pock-marked like the surface of the moon when you get them clean. Mine were. You are not going to want to re-use them.
            I recommend America's Finest Corvette at (888) 318-3883 for your new shields.

            As I said, I just finished the same project as you are embarking on. I sent a new pair of shields from AFC to the shop I used to build up my T/As, Duntov Motors in TX. AFCs shields are as close as you will find available anywhere. White Cadmium wash finish, and Delco Moraine and part no. stamped the same as original and so you can see it inside the shield. You will like them.

            Don and Mark------


            Another thing to keep in mind: used rear rotor shields usually have considerable wear on the raised pads which align the parking brake shoe levers. Sometimes, they are even worn through.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Don H.
              Moderator
              • June 16, 2009
              • 2248

              #7
              Re: C2 - Rear Disc Brake Dust Shields

              I agree Joe,
              The pads on mine were worn but none were showing daylight. But the shields were so lumpy there was no way anyone would want to hang them on shiney new T/As, even with the freshened up original iron parts that I reused. My guru told me AFC was making correct shields that are dead nuts on in every way, including the markings and finish. When I got them, it was a no brainer. Finally, a repop that someone went to the trouble and expense to get right.
              Mark, acid bath your originals, clear coat them, and hang them over the work bench as garage art. Put the AFCs on your baby. You'll smile.

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              • Peter J.
                Very Frequent User
                • September 30, 1994
                • 586

                #8
                Re: C2 - Rear Disc Brake Dust Shields

                I'm a big fan of the brothers at CSSB and go to them first on brake parts but their dust shields are the generic replacements and not even close to originals. I think America's Finest Corvettes has the closest repop out there but you are going to pay for the effort it took to copy them correctly.

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                • Mark P.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • May 13, 2008
                  • 934

                  #9
                  Re: C2 - Rear Disc Brake Dust Shields

                  I just spoke to America's Finest and plan to go with their rear shields. They are more expensive ($59 each side) than Paragon's ($32 each side). Both have the Delco Part number and DELCO MORAINE and logo but Paragon's are Bright Zinc and AF's are cllear Cadmium plated which according to this article should last 2-3X longer than Zinc. AF also told me their stamp can be seen on the other side. Not sure if Paragon's does that.

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43202

                    #10
                    Re: C2 - Rear Disc Brake Dust Shields

                    Originally posted by Mark Pellowski (49021)
                    I just spoke to America's Finest and plan to go with their rear shields. They are more expensive ($59 each side) than Paragon's ($32 each side). Both have the Delco Part number and DELCO MORAINE and logo but Paragon's are Bright Zinc and AF's are cllear Cadmium plated which according to this article should last 2-3X longer than Zinc. AF also told me their stamp can be seen on the other side. Not sure if Paragon's does that.

                    http://burbankplating.com/articles.php
                    Mark------

                    All of the original shields I've seen (at least through 1972) were stamped from pre-punch galvanized (zinc) material. I really don't see how any extra durability of cadmium plating is going to represent much of a benefit unless one drives his car day-to-day in all weather conditions.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Joey P.
                      Infrequent User
                      • December 27, 2015
                      • 28

                      #11
                      Re: C2 - Rear Disc Brake Dust Shields

                      What part number should the rear dust shield be for a 1967? Book shows 3864117 L and 3864118 R but is this the same for front and rear?

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                      • Leif A.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • August 31, 1997
                        • 3621

                        #12
                        Re: C2 - Rear Disc Brake Dust Shields

                        Joey,
                        Your responding to an 11 year old thread but here is the info you seek. Next time it would behoove you to start a new thread.
                        Front left side - 3953423
                        Front right side - 3953424
                        Rear left side - 3864067
                        Rear right side - 3864068
                        Leif
                        '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
                        Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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                        • Joey P.
                          Infrequent User
                          • December 27, 2015
                          • 28

                          #13
                          Re: C2 - Rear Disc Brake Dust Shields

                          Leif,

                          Thank you for replying so based on what you stated the NCRS manual is incorrect? None of your numbers show the "L" or "R" either. Guess I am back on the hunt if what I purchased at Carlisle last week is incorrect. My car is a 390 BB.

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