White Rain Hairspray

[Clark K.]

I have heard that spraying White Rain brand hairspray on the door jambs and other overly-glossy areas on a Corvette with over-restored exterior paint MIGHT prevent a total (85) point deduction during Flight judging. I do not expect to have no deduction, just less than 85 points which is a killer when you are trying for Top Flight (94%+).

Whomever has experience with this, please advise. What is the application procedure other than spray it on? I am wondering if this coating will easily wash off, later.
-Clark

[Dana M.]

Re: White Rain Hairspray

Didn't work with me.

[Joe R.]

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Clark,

I've seen posts by Tom Ames and other experienced paint judges that the ol' hair spray trick won't cut the mustard. Save it for making fireballs at the next Van Halen concert!

Joe

[Tom A.]

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Judges are not looking just for dull on door jambs, they are looking for an original appearing finish. That was not dull. Most judges with some paint experience will spot hair spray in a minute, it just doesn't look right. Occasionally it might pass with a judge with limited experience. Once you've looked at a few original cars it's easy to see. Having the jambs repainted to a correct appearance is not that expensive when you consider the number of points saved. The difference in full deduct and a correct factory method (50% deduct on originality) is 85 points vs. 22 points, if condition is good. Where else can you make up 63 points. Those are some really cheap points. Don't forget that means door jambs and other areas which would display and unbuffed finish.

[Tom H.]

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I agree. A good judge will spot the hair spray in a heartbeat and I bet you sure wouldn't feel like your car got an accurate score, even if you got away with it. Deducted points for a car being too nice doesn't really bother me. I use white rain for propellant in my potato gun !!!

[John D.]

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I agree that the hairspray is not fooling anyone. In my mostly orginal paint 67 the jambs are relatively glossy just not as much as the fenders and doors....

[Peter N.]

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I have heard that spraying White Rain brand hairspray on the door jambs and other overly-glossy areas on a Corvette with over-restored exterior paint MIGHT prevent a total (85) point deduction during Flight judging. .......snip.....

Only if it fixes the cow-lick.

[Joe R.]

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Gee, I was under the impression that the "R" in NCRS meant "Restoration"! Using Lacquer Paint and then NOT buffing out the door jams would be my first choice!

This thread just points out the need for "Bow Tie" cars to be exhibited at "EVERY" NCRS meet!

It also brings out the appreciation I have for owners of Corvettes to be actively involved in the restoration of their Corvette. By that I mean, stripping, sanding, priming and applying the paint!

Anybody can purchase a restored Corvette and then "Claim" to be a Corvette owner or an expert restorer!

OK, I'm getting off the soap box now! My apologies for being so old and cranky!

JR

[Michael J.]

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Gee, I was under the impression that the "R" in NCRS meant "Restoration"! Using Lacquer Paint and then NOT buffing out the door jams would be my first choice!

This thread just points out the need for "Bow Tie" cars to be exhibited at "EVERY" NCRS meet!

It also brings out the appreciation I have for owners of Corvettes to be actively involved in the restoration of their Corvette. By that I mean, stripping, sanding, priming and applying the paint!

Anybody can purchase a restored Corvette and then "Claim" to be a Corvette owner or an expert restorer!

OK, I'm getting off the soap box now! My apologies for being so old and cranky!

JR

I only everyone who owns a Corvette had the time, experience, equipment and facilities, and talent to do all those restoration things, not gonna happen.....

[Dick W.]

[Clark K.]

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Anybody can purchase a restored Corvette and then "Claim" to be a Corvette owner or an expert restorer! JR

Last I checked, this is still a free country and anyone who can buy a Corvette, restored or not, may do so. There is no NCRS requirement for a Corvette owner to do any restoration of his/her car. I never asked anyone for their opinion concerning the need for asking the question. Let's get back to the question asked in this post and quit getting off the subject.

[Dick W.]

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Lets keep a little civility in this thread or it can and will be deleted. 'nuff said on that

[Jaime G.]

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Dick, you are absolutely right and Mr. Ray is totally out of context with his comments.
Ownership of a car is by definition just that, having title to the ownership document and it
does not define a persons expertise in either restoring or rebuilding that car. That experience
is gained by a variety of ways and cen be measured in many situations. Anybody can claim
expertise, but it takes knowledge and demosntration of such to convey it.

Can we get back to the hairspray question please?

[Clark K.]

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My car has been clear-coated by a former owner, which was a business, not an individual. They knew that a shiny paint job would get the bids up at the 2008 Mecum Spring Classic. It did the trick...it got the car sold to Terry Michaelis of ProTeam Corvette Sales. And, the shiny paint got my attention enough to buy it from ProTeam over three years ago.

But, let's go back in time...my car had been restored in the late 80s by a former owner in Connecticut, Kurt S., who lavished the car with attention. He restored the black interior back to its original red vinyl interior (red is correct for the trim tag). He spent hours adjusting each door and each headlight bucket. He spent untold hours preparing the car for the lacquer paint that he applied in his paint and body shop. He bought the car for $15K and sold it, after earning a chapter and regional Top Flight for the car, for $45k.

That seller at Mecum (ProTeam was the buyer) had no interest in keeping this car an NCRS Top Flight car. They were the 3rd of four businesses that owned the car between Kurt S. and me. This company applied a clear coat over the carefully-applied acrylic lacquer paint. It is this clear coat in the areas such as door jambs that have helped earn my car many "Best in Show" trophies and a big silver cup at the 2012 Keels & Wheels Concours d'Elegance. But, it is this clear coat that costs me 85 points at NCRS meets.

I do not wish to destroy the car's show/concours winning abilities by taking fine steel wool to the door jambs (and etc.) to "dull them down". I am looking for a way to temporarily dull-down those areas that are so obviously incorrect to NCRS Exterior Judging Team judges. I am hoping that someone has a solution.

If there is no "trick" to solving this dilemma, then at least I tried, to no avail.
-Clark

[Edward B.]

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Another squabble that highlights the differing attitudes of relatively new vs. longterm members. If you own it you can do what you want with it, but I don't have to applaud your choice.