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  • Peter L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 31, 1983
    • 1930

    #16
    Re: 1966 427 425 correct thermostat housing

    Joe - Send an E-mail to the '66 Judging Team Leader, Bill Calorico. It would probably be useful to indicate the sentence and/or paragraph of interest and a suggested revision. Pete

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    • Joe R.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 2006
      • 1822

      #17
      Re: 1966 427 425 correct thermostat housing

      Originally posted by Peter Lindahl (6598)
      Joe - Send an E-mail to the '66 Judging Team Leader, Bill Calorico. It would probably be useful to indicate the sentence and/or paragraph of interest and a suggested revision. Pete
      Pete,

      I sent Bill an email yesterday asking for a possible correction to the 66 TIM&JG. I'll report back what I find out.

      On a side note, is the part number for the 65 L78 (396) also 3877660?

      Thanks,
      Joe

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      • Peter L.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • May 31, 1983
        • 1930

        #18
        Re: 1966 427 425 correct thermostat housing

        Joe - I quite sure that the '65 396 did NOT use the 660. I'm sure one of the 396 guys will confirm. Pete

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        • Joe R.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • May 31, 2006
          • 1822

          #19
          Re: 1966 427 425 correct thermostat housing

          Originally posted by Peter Lindahl (6598)
          Joe - I quite sure that the '65 396 did NOT use the 660. I'm sure one of the 396 guys will confirm. Pete
          Pete,

          OK, thanks for the quick response. That was implied in some of the previous posts in this thread, but I wanted to make sure.

          Joe

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          • Wayne M.
            Expired
            • March 1, 1980
            • 6414

            #20
            Re: 1966 427 425 correct thermostat housing

            Originally posted by Peter Lindahl (6598)
            Joe - I quite sure that the '65 396 did NOT use the 660. I'm sure one of the 396 guys will confirm. Pete
            '65 L78 took coolant outlet part # 3827369 (and an aluminum spacer between it and the manifold). Believe the '369' also found on other GM products '66-up.

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            • Jack H.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • April 1, 1990
              • 9906

              #21
              Re: 1966 427 425 correct thermostat housing

              Plus, wasn't this part produced both by Saginaw and Tonawanda foundries? Some have suggested that as another variable in the neck vs. flange positioning...

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              • John H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • December 1, 1997
                • 16513

                #22
                Re: 1966 427 425 correct thermostat housing

                Originally posted by Jack Humphrey (17100)
                Plus, wasn't this part produced both by Saginaw and Tonawanda foundries? Some have suggested that as another variable in the neck vs. flange positioning...
                Jack -

                I don't think either the Saginaw or Tonawanda foundries had aluminum die-casting capability in the 60's; I believe the 660 housing was purchased.

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • February 1, 1988
                  • 43221

                  #23
                  Re: 1966 427 425 correct thermostat housing

                  Originally posted by Joe Raine (45823)
                  Pete,

                  I sent Bill an email yesterday asking for a possible correction to the 66 TIM&JG. I'll report back what I find out.

                  On a side note, is the part number for the 65 L78 (396) also 3877660?

                  Thanks,
                  Joe
                  Joe------


                  Besides everything else that's been said, the GM #3877660 thermostat housing did not even exist during the 1965 model year, so it could not have been used for 1965 L-78. The 3877660 was first used for 1966 model year applications.
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • David L.
                    Expired
                    • July 31, 1980
                    • 3310

                    #24
                    Re: 1966 427 425 correct thermostat housing

                    The coolant outlet for a 1965 Corvette (396) does not appear in my 1965 Chevrolet part catalogs until the May 1965 issue. The GM part number is 3827369 in GR. 1.153. As I remember the 396 option was not available until sometime in the middle of the 1965 production.

                    Dave

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                    • Joe R.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • May 31, 2006
                      • 1822

                      #25
                      Re: 1966 427 425 correct thermostat housing

                      Originally posted by Joe Raine (45823)
                      Pete,

                      I sent Bill an email yesterday asking for a possible correction to the 66 TIM&JG. I'll report back what I find out.

                      On a side note, is the part number for the 65 L78 (396) also 3877660?

                      Thanks,
                      Joe
                      I ran into Bill at the Joplin regional and asked him about my email. He said that he had probably deleted it. He then asked me if I had an original car. I said no. I then asked if he had access to this board. He said yes. I next asked if he would look at this thread. He said something like, "No, but you can email the contents to me.". That doesn't sound very practical to me.

                      So the question is, does anyone have a 66 with a known original 660 water neck?

                      I looked at 4 cars at the regional, all had one recess on one side.

                      Joe

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                      • Michael H.
                        Expired
                        • January 29, 2008
                        • 7477

                        #26
                        Re: 1966 427 425 correct thermostat housing

                        Originally posted by Joe Raine (45823)
                        I ran into Bill at the Joplin regional and asked him about my email. He said that he had probably deleted it. He then asked me if I had an original car. I said no. I then asked if he had access to this board. He said yes. I next asked if he would look at this thread. He said something like, "No, but you can email the contents to me.". That doesn't sound very practical to me.

                        So the question is, does anyone have a 66 with a known original 660 water neck?

                        I looked at 4 cars at the regional, all had one recess on one side.

                        Joe
                        Send him this link. It should take him directly to this discussion.

                        https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...56281&uid=4660

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                        • Jim C.
                          Expired
                          • April 1, 2006
                          • 290

                          #27
                          Re: 1966 427 425 correct thermostat housing

                          My first 1966 Corvette (#16401) 327/300 used a thermostat housing with part number 3877660 on the flange. My current 1966 (#27592) 327/300 also has a thermostat housing with part number 3877660 on the flange. Based on certain information I have pertaining to both cars, I'm confident that both thermostat housings are original to their respective cars.

                          Jim C.

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                          • Ronald L.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • October 18, 2009
                            • 3248

                            #28
                            Re: 1966 427 425 correct thermostat housing

                            Joe,

                            What dimple are you referring to?

                            The one in that ebay sale had one on the long bolt side and two on the short bolt side. If you look carefully in those dimples, you will see ejection pin bosses.

                            Another thing to study is the cavity number. The parts that are considered 68 or later - with the number on the neck, what cavity numbers are you seeing?

                            Even in 1966 for usage on Chevelle, Corvette and others one cavity would not have been able to keep up. If there was a different supplier - chances are that the Tonawanda plant got theirs from a different location versus Flint.


                            I saw an odd feature - a die cast ejection pin boss partially up the neck - in what appeared to be a repro, don't know where that photo is right now, but I have never seen that on old parts from the 70's or from original cars.

                            I hope you make progress on the 66 JG - keep us in the loop!

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                            • Joe R.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • May 31, 2006
                              • 1822

                              #29
                              Re: 1966 427 425 correct thermostat housing

                              Originally posted by Jim Cicchini (45647)
                              My first 1966 Corvette (#16401) 327/300 used a thermostat housing with part number 3877660 on the flange. My current 1966 (#27592) 327/300 also has a thermostat housing with part number 3877660 on the flange. Based on certain information I have pertaining to both cars, I'm confident that both thermostat housings are original to their respective cars.

                              Jim C.
                              Jim,

                              Can you provide some pictures?

                              Joe

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                              • Joe R.
                                Extremely Frequent Poster
                                • May 31, 2006
                                • 1822

                                #30
                                Re: 1966 427 425 correct thermostat housing

                                Originally posted by Michael Hanson (4067)
                                Send him this link. It should take him directly to this discussion.

                                https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...56281&uid=4660
                                Michael,

                                I asked him that already. He said he wouldn't look at it.

                                Joe

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