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  • Dave C.
    Expired
    • August 31, 2003
    • 82

    Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2

    Does anyone have a set of the Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2 for installation of control arm bushings. I am looking for the dimensions of the tubes, height and inside diameter, and the spacer rings, height and diameter. I sent a PM to Joe L but no answer so I am guessing he doesnt have one. Anyone else?

    Thanks Dave
  • Terry M.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • September 30, 1980
    • 15599

    #2
    Re: Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2

    A suggestion:
    Measure the distance on the control arm between the two parts the bushing(s) go through -- that will give you the height of the spacer(s). Also measure the smaller diameter of the bushing and the diameter necessary to just go over the end of the bushing with the shoulder on it.

    That is what I did for work on my B and A-body Chevrolets. I was able to make the parts from standard water pipe stock from the home center. I had to cut some to length, but at the time I had access to a metal cutting band saw and a pipe cutter. They are not pretty, but they were a whole lot less expensive than Kent Moore tools.

    I also used some all-thread, small enough to fit through the bushing, and large flat washers from the home center to make pullers to install the bushing. The old bushing yielded to an air hammer with a blunt tip. Suspension work is only a few steps removed from ye ol' smithy or yore, so the tools don't need to be elegant.
    Terry

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    • Dave C.
      Expired
      • August 31, 2003
      • 82

      #3
      Re: Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2

      Thanks Terry, I am doing the same thing but I was not sure of the height because nothing seems that flat on the control arm surfaces. By-the-way I see that you have a 70 lt1, I own two 70 lt1 convertibles both in need of major work - one day.

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      • Terry M.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • September 30, 1980
        • 15599

        #4
        Re: Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2

        Another option:
        Watch eBay. Kent Moore stuff comes up often, but the old tools don't come up so much any more. With dealerships going under there will be more opportunities along these lines, however. Maybe that is the bright side of the mess we are in.

        I have a number of those "one of these days" projects too. I am beginning to divest myself of some of them because I have come to realize those days are never coming for me. I have a 1937 Cadillac that falls in the category, but I still have hope for the 1967 Malibu.
        Terry

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        • Dave C.
          Expired
          • August 31, 2003
          • 82

          #5
          Re: Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2

          My father would probably be interested in your 37 caddy. Send me a pm if you do think of selling. I am relatively close to you Indy.

          Thanks

          Dave

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43219

            #6
            Re: Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2

            Originally posted by Dave Clarke (40667)
            Does anyone have a set of the Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2 for installation of control arm bushings. I am looking for the dimensions of the tubes, height and inside diameter, and the spacer rings, height and diameter. I sent a PM to Joe L but no answer so I am guessing he doesnt have one. Anyone else?

            Thanks Dave

            Dave-----


            I forgot to get back to you. I think I have the tools. I was going to go out and look fro them and then I forgot. I'll do it as soon as I can.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 43219

              #7
              Re: Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2

              Originally posted by Dave Clarke (40667)
              Does anyone have a set of the Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2 for installation of control arm bushings. I am looking for the dimensions of the tubes, height and inside diameter, and the spacer rings, height and diameter. I sent a PM to Joe L but no answer so I am guessing he doesnt have one. Anyone else?

              Thanks Dave
              Dave-----

              Tool J-7052-1:

              11.88 OL
              1.30" ID
              1.55" OD
              0.83" H

              Tool J-7052-2:

              11.13" OL
              1.70" ID
              1.96" OD
              1.44" H

              spacer rings:

              first:

              0.76" OL
              0.70" ID
              0.96" OD
              1.50" H

              second:

              0.80" OL
              0.70" ID
              0.95" OD
              1.46" H

              Photos below:
              Attached Files
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Dave C.
                Expired
                • August 31, 2003
                • 82

                #8
                Re: Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2

                Joe - thank you so much. I appreciate it very much.

                thanks again


                Dave

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                • Dave C.
                  Expired
                  • August 31, 2003
                  • 82

                  #9
                  Re: Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2

                  Joe, I reviewed the dimensions again and I am a little confused about the diameter of the rings. I thought the rings would be similar to the diameter of the two main tools 2" and 1 1/2" so that the bushings would go through them when being installed. Is there something that I am missing?

                  Dave

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43219

                    #10
                    Re: Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2

                    Originally posted by Dave Clarke (40667)
                    Joe, I reviewed the dimensions again and I am a little confused about the diameter of the rings. I thought the rings would be similar to the diameter of the two main tools 2" and 1 1/2" so that the bushings would go through them when being installed. Is there something that I am missing?

                    Dave
                    Dave-----


                    I'm afraid I don't have an answer for this. I have not actually used these tools as of yet.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Philip C.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • December 1, 1984
                      • 1117

                      #11
                      Re: Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2

                      Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                      Dave-----

                      Tool J-7052-1:

                      11.88 OL
                      1.30" ID
                      1.55" OD
                      0.83" H

                      Tool J-7052-2:

                      11.13" OL
                      1.70" ID
                      1.96" OD
                      1.44" H

                      spacer rings:

                      first:

                      0.76" OL
                      0.70" ID
                      0.96" OD
                      1.50" H

                      second:

                      0.80" OL
                      0.70" ID
                      0.95" OD
                      1.46" H

                      Photos below:
                      Hi Joe while your at it, do you have the support stand for the control arms J-5888-3 I would like to make one Phil 8063

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                      • Joe L.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • February 1, 1988
                        • 43219

                        #12
                        Re: Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2

                        Originally posted by Philip Castaldo (8063)
                        Hi Joe while your at it, do you have the support stand for the control arms J-5888-3 I would like to make one Phil 8063
                        Phil-----


                        I thought I had that one but I couldn't find it. Several years ago I organized my special tools into separate plastic cases by functional group. In other words, I put all the a-arms tools in one case, t-arm tools in another case, differential tools in another and so on. Vaguely, I recollect that the J-5888-3 wouldn't fit into the case with the other a-arm tools "so I put it somewhere else". Now the question arises as to just where that "somewhere else" is. It's not in any of the other cases; that's the first place I checked. So, when I find it, I'll let you know what the specs are.
                        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                        • Terry M.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • September 30, 1980
                          • 15599

                          #13
                          Re: Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2

                          I think the short U-shaped pieces -- is that what Philip is calling rings? -- are "spacers" that go between the "ears" of the control arm -- that is between the two parts of the control arm that the bushing passes through. Their purpose is to maintain the prescribed distance between those pieces of metal while the bushing is being pressed on and off.

                          I see one "cap" that could be used to apply pressure to the bushing, but I would have expected there to be two "caps" -- one to press on and one to press off. The two ends of the bushing are different diameters, thus the need in my mind for two different diameter caps.

                          But then maybe I have the whole process mixed up.

                          Doesn't the FSM show how to use these tools? I seem to remember some pictures with the J numbers identifying the parts.
                          Terry

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                          • Dave C.
                            Expired
                            • August 31, 2003
                            • 82

                            #14
                            Re: Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2

                            Terry, the confusion for me was the OD Joe shows on the rings(.96 & .95), because you are correct that they go between the ears of the control arm. However for the bushing that is aproximately 1.25" in diameter needs to be able to pass through the ring. Maybe I am throughly mixed up - is the H dimensions the really what I think as the OD of the ring (1.46 & 1.50)?

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                            • Terry M.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • September 30, 1980
                              • 15599

                              #15
                              Re: Kent Moore J-7052-1 & 2

                              Dave, Is this set for the upper or lower control arms. I'm thinking upper -- and the 1.25-inch diameter sounds like the lower.
                              Could this be the source of the confusion?
                              Terry

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