Does anyone have a pic of the placement of the relays, wiring and courtesy light .
Thanks in advance.
Steve
Thanks in advance.
Steve
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Hi Steve,
Here you go....attached below. Camera going in for a closeup from the air vent grille heading up and into the dark zone. Fourth pic should be what you want. The harness plug faces forward, a little hard to see in the pic. Note the lower circuit breaker is for the headlamp motors and the one directly above it is for the PW circuit, which then feeds the relay, a 3 terminal type. Feed+, Output, and Control. The relay grounds itself to the birdcage for relay coil(-). Control comes from the PW harness and ties into the BRN Accesory feed from the ignition switch. That single plug with the brown wire feed ties into the main harness BRN wire which is normally tied to the Cluster U69(radio equipped) Capacitor mounte lower left(from rear) of the cluster. The PW harness has a special connector to tie 2 plugs if U69 equipped, one for the Capacitor for radio, other for the PW Control wire to the relay. I added a pic of that below too.
I have over 8,000 photos of this car when I restored it a few years ago, with many in this thread. If you need anything else use my latest Search help routine using "Posts" in Long Threads (Sticky above) with my username and search words and you may find other '67 related info if needed quickly without the need to peruse through the entire thread which is cumbersome due to picture count. I tend to get a bit long winded when I post here.
Rich
PS I just found it using the above Search routine using the search string " 1967 AND courtesy AND wiring ". It took me right to the post with the pictures below. HERE
PW Relay Control wire 3-way plug(BRN ACC feed+), and U69 radio capacitor(lower left in 1st pic) connection tied into the Main harness. That other realy can in these photos is for the Speed Minder Speedometer, actually a buzzer(which btw you can't really here on a pipe-car.)
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Re: 67 PW LH kick panel area
Perfect! Thanks Richard.
I didn't take this car apart and I put it together according to what I saw in the AIM and it just didn't look right. The AIM, in it's poor illustration, appears to show the PW relay at the bottom, but that had the lead to the fuse box passing over the grill. And I had the relay your pic shows above the courtesy light below it.
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Great pics Rich.... your posts are always a great help...
Enzo Colosimo
Ncrs Ontario Chapter Chairman 🇨🇦
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Steve, Glad to help...
I sure know that feeling. It's one of those "Errrrr" feelings you get when you get to work on cars that were, let's say, mucked with a bit.
Yes the RED Power lead from the fuse panel just hangs there in mid air on it's way up to the CB and Relay, pic below.
These I took before restoration so I can't take credit for any mistakes. That Orange wire is for that Speed Minder Buzzer feed if equipped. The extra power terminal in the plug Org wire is for some other option if equipped, I don't recall what it is, or maybe it was there for other car models if the same harness was used for them. Unsure.
Rich
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This was a sad situation. The guy that disassembled the car and started into the frame off was struck by pancreatic cancer. The chassis and suspension were assembled and the body stripped and in primer. I went home and worked with him for a week to get the body back on the frame so we could move it out of his shop. He may have taken pics, but I didn't get them before he passed away. Then the car sat for a couple of years while I finished a couple of other projects I was in the middle of. So not having taken it apart and not having any pics, working only by the aim has made it a bit of a challenge at times.
What's throwing me off with this part is that I can't find any screw holes above the courtesy light bracket to mount the relay into. My pic doesn't look far enough up, but I can't see any holes. I know the car was originally equipped with pw and the holes are there and correct for the breaker. I will probably have to remove the fuse block to move the harness out of the way for a better look.
Off to a swap meet in Portland today, but when I'm back next week I'll be perusing your pics for help on the K66 harness/connections. This was a new engine side harness and I connected the k66 per the aim. All works fine, except that when I did this same procedure on a 69 the aim told you specifically how to deal with the wires that were no longer in use. Told you exactly where to cut them and how to tie them. The 67 aim doesn't give that detail. I may still have access to what's left of the original harness, so I'll see if I can figure it out from there, but otherwise I will need some guidance with that.
Thanks again,
Steve
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Steve, Very sad.
Below is one of those photos I posted earlier with some notes showing one of the hex screws. Yes it's very tight up there to see anything, but I'd imagine the holes are up there somewhere.
As far as the 1967 TI AIM, as you've seen, there are no notes as to what to do with that heavy gauge Pink wire in the Forward Harness when K66 is installed. That Pink is the non-TI Ballast to Coil+ output and is useless. Whenever I install a new forward harness the consensus is to simply pull that from the harness and remove it completely.
This post has a diagram that may help.
https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...670#post788670
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Rich -- I see that some of the screws for holding the vent grill (pic 1 and 2) were drilled beside the molded-in countersunk holes and the molded-in holes were not used. My 67 was assembled in the same sloppy way. I'm glad to see mine wasn't the only one.Comment
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