Does anybody have a picture of inner pillar post

[Daniel D.]

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Thank you, That repair would take some creativity.

[Eric F.]

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If my memory serves me.... they look like the braces over the seatbelt mechanisms in the floor on the outsides of the seats.

[Eric F.]

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I'm guessing it was room for kick-panel mounted speakers. Those darn audiophiles will do anything for more sound! :-)

[Joe L.]

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So I don't need any of the 4 under dash braces that are shown in the exploded view of my manual?

DANIEL------


No underdash tubular braces for a coupe.

[Joe L.]

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Then these two braces must be for the rear bumper? The one on the left has seen better days, since it was bent I thought it went under the dash, BTW, I bought the car partially disassembled, that's why the questions, Thank you for helping me with this.

DANIEL------


These are definitely NOT underdash braces. They look like bumper braces but they could be something else. The one on the left looks like it's either been repaired or modified. However, I've never seen one of this configuration anywhere on a C3 so I suspect it's been modified. For what reason, I have no idea.

[Daniel D.]

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Thank you, D

[Daniel D.]

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There are two new kick panels that came with the car, so you're probably correct.

[Alan S.]

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Hi Daniel,
You mentioned that you purchased this car partially disassembled.
Do you know about the AIM (Assembly Instruction Manual)?
It would be a tremendous help to you as you work on your 71. It is full of drawings and as the name indicate has information about how the cars were assembled at St.Louis.The NCRS store sells them!
Good Luck!
Regards,Alan

I believe the rod on the right in your picture is one of the re-enforcing rods for the rear bumper.

[Daniel D.]

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I was gonna ask somebody about that, I have bought 3 other paper back books like those you find on amazon, they are good for what they are, this AIM book, does actually help you put the car back together with some instructions? I've been kinda burnt on some of these books, The 3 I bought were all pretty much the same thing. I have a 3 ring binder manual that came with this car, it has exploded views that look like they have been photocopied showing everything from the ROOTER to the TOOTER, but nothing that describes how to put the car back together. I'm gonna go look at the book store now Great pictures BTW, Thanks for that, D

[Daniel D.]

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I just now looked in the book store for the AIM, I have one of those, I need to learn how to use it, When I was looking at the exploded view of under the dash, that picture must have been for an A/C car, but there were not any notes any where to explain what a non-A/C car has or does not have. Thank you, D

[Terry M.]

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I was gonna ask somebody about that, I have bought 3 other paper back books like those you find on amazon, they are good for what they are, this AIM book, does actually help you put the car back together with some instructions? I've been kinda burnt on some of these books, The 3 I bought were all pretty much the same thing. I have a 3 ring binder manual that came with this car, it has exploded views that look like they have been photocopied showing everything from the ROOTER to the TOOTER, but nothing that describes how to put the car back together. I'm gonna go look at the book store now Great pictures BTW, Thanks for that, D

Double D
That three ring binder sounds like it might be the AIM. The AIM will not give you a step by step to assemble the car, but it does have illustrations that will show you where some of the "hidden" parts are, and give you torque values (Yea, I know real men don't own a torque wrench -- but if you intend to put the car together and then drive it your butt depends on using a torque wrench) for the fasteners that hold the car together.

If you want a step-by-step the Chevrolet Chassis Service Manual and Chevrolet Overhaul Manual are your best bet. They are not designed to give you Automotive 101, or Automotive Electronics 204, but once you learn how they are organized and with the help of the AIM, most folks can do it. Of course we are here to help as well. Don't throw in the towel yet.

What are the titles of the three books you bought?

[Terry M.]

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I just now looked in the book store for the AIM, I have one of those, I need to learn how to use it, When I was looking at the exploded view of under the dash, that picture must have been for an A/C car, but there were not any notes any where to explain what a non-A/C car has or does not have. Thank you, D

An AC car will be shown toward the back of the AIM -- look at the bottom center of the page -- it will say UPC C60. C60 is the option number for Air Conditioning. The options are shown alphabetically toward the back of the book.

The front part of the book has the assembly of the basic (no options) body and chassis. Some pages will be for convertible only -- those page will be titled (toward the bottom right of the page) 67. Everything else is coupe and may (but not always) have 37 on the page.

You may not find a good drawing of the holes in your A pillar (or hinge pillar). The drawing will only show those holes if they need to be illustrated to show the placement of some other part. Even at that if there was a modification to those holes during production the drawing may or may not be changed to show the mod. They didn't redraw the pages until there was a significant change to the part or process.

[Daniel D.]

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Actually I bought four,
#1 Corvette Restoration 2nd Edition 1968-1982 Richard Prince
#2 How to Restore and Modify your Corvette 1968-1982 Richard Newton
#3 Corvette Restoration Guide 1968-1982 Richard Prince
#4 How to Restore your C3 1968-1982 Walt Thurn
They are good books, I was hoping for more detailed illustrations with each purchase

[Terry M.]

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Actually I bought four,
#1 Corvette Restoration 2nd Edition 1968-1982 Richard Prince
#2 How to Restore and Modify your Corvette 1968-1982 Richard Newton
#3 Corvette Restoration Guide 1968-1982 Richard Prince
#4 How to Restore your C3 1968-1982 Walt Thurn
They are good books, I was hoping for more detailed illustrations with each purpose

Those all are good books, but as you found out, none of them have a step by step. The The Chevrolet Service Manual and The Chevrolet Overhaul Manual are the step-by-step books, but they do assUme that one has some knowledge of automobiles and automotive technology. They also will not have an illustration of every part or process. Some processes will have several illustrations and others will have none. Sometimes the illustration needed is in another part of the book and in some cases the text references that page and other times not. It takes some time using them to become familiar with them. They also assUme that one is working on a completely assembled car. There is no book that I know of that will tell you how to assemble a car from scratch, although the AIM comes closest.

The Service Manual will tell you how to remove and install parts own the car. The Overhaul Manual is for disassembling and assembling parts off the car; for example. The Service Manual will tell you how to remove/install the alternator, but to take it apart and test and replace internal components of the alternator one needs the Overhaul Manual.

If you want to know the finish of a part the Judging Guide is your answer. The Service and Overhaul manuals both assU&me one has access to good new parts and all the special tools needed for that year. Lots of luck with that idea.

Try the CSM & COM and The TIM&JG (Technical Information Manual & Judging Guide) see if they come closer to meeting your needs. All are available from the NCRS store through the buttons above.

[Alan S.]

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Hi Daniel,
The AIM really is your best source of information about how the cars were assembled, and to a degree, in what sequence.
Some people do miss having the illustrations not being in the form of photographs, but the strength in the drawings is that they can show 'exploded' views which document assembly sequence, which photos really can't do.
The drawing methods are really quite consistent, but do take some study. For instance some drawings, especially those showing the underbody and interior some times are drawn with 'x-ray vision'. At first this can be confusing, but if you study the drawing, you realize you're being shown BOTH sides of a particular location with the x-ray allowing you to see a part on each side of the fiberglass or part, and how the fasteners were installed to join them.
Another difficulty can be the fact that a part may have been 'floated' out of position to make the point of the drawing clearer or to show a part under the 'floated' part. So seeing the part drawn not where you'd expect it to be can be unnerving.
The 'detail' drawings on some pages can be a puzzle if you don't see the 'view' arrow which indicates the angle the detail is being looked at.
There are a few ground rules that have been mentioned that help in understanding the drawings and help in finding what you're looking for. First is the drawings for both coupes and convertibles, or for just one or the other. Secondly is what you're looking for part of standard production or is it an option. Knowing those 2 things will help you navigate through the many sections and pages. It helps to keep those 2 points in mind.
The AIM is intimidating at first but it is our best source of information on taking cars apart and putting them back together. I do realize you're at a disadvantage since you're facing a partially disassembled car.
Chin Up!
Regards,
Alan