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  • Bob B.
    Very Frequent User
    • February 28, 2003
    • 831

    Can you ID this Mystery Item?

    Hi all,


    Just got an NOS part I ordered and this item was installed with it. The part is something that you can see under the hood of a lot of C1 cars and, if you know where to look, you could actually see this piece if installed with the part. Its purpose is obvious if you see it as installed, but this is the first time I've ever seen one.


    Does anyone know where it goes and what it is for? Anyone who can answer correctly will receive an attaboy!


    Bob
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  • Richard M.
    Super Moderator
    • August 31, 1988
    • 11317

    #2
    Re: Can you ID this Mystery Item?

    Bob, Got me curious.....I've never seen one but can you narrow down the year a bit? There are 9 years of C1's, and my weakness is '53-55, a bit stronger on 56-57, and 58-62 my most comfortable. How big is the part? A reference in the picture, like a dime or quarter, etc might help.

    Rich

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    • Bob B.
      Very Frequent User
      • February 28, 2003
      • 831

      #3
      Re: Can you ID this Mystery Item? 1.75" along bottom!

      Rich,

      The Mystery Item is 1.75 inches along the bottom before the flaps turn up. No matter what year C1 anyone is familiar with, they will be familiar with the item that this was installed with.

      Since it is obvious what it does, I wonder why it wasn't installed with all of them? If not, then what is it doing with one of mine?

      Have fun!

      Bob

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      • Bob M.
        Expired
        • February 29, 2004
        • 66

        #4
        Re: Can you ID this Mystery Item? 1.75" along bottom!

        Bob

        I have owned 2 dual fours, 245 and a 270, that part I have never seen on either of those cars. Here is my guess, it belongs on a fuelie, but can't say more because I have never owned one. If I am close I would like a partial attaboy.

        Bob

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        • Richard M.
          Super Moderator
          • August 31, 1988
          • 11317

          #5
          Re: Can you ID this Mystery Item? 1.75" along bottom!

          I think I may have it...............

          But before I give in, I must say this was a pretty good one. Had me stumped. The clue was the width, apx 1 3/4", and those ears that are thin sheetmetal, and look like they can be bent over to hold something "down", like a captive nut, but no hole.......so maybe a bolt(or 2). That U shaped piece was confusing too, but appeared to be some sort of spacer, hmmm about a 1/2" or so high.

          Yup, that must be it......You can only see the tips of the 2 long pieces when installed. It's the part that's in between the lower radiator support frame and outer welded cover. To hold the carriage bolt heads captive which mount the radiator support/body to the front crossmember third arm bracket. The tabs get bent outward on each side over the bolt heads, then the cover piece gets welded on.

          This was a good one. Thanks as I've never seen one before out of a support.

          Rich
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          Last edited by Richard M.; October 22, 2013, 06:56 AM. Reason: reworded

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          • Bob B.
            Very Frequent User
            • February 28, 2003
            • 831

            #6
            Re: Can you ID this Mystery Item? 1.75" along bottom!

            Hi all,

            Well, it is time to identify the Mystery Part. The attached pics tell the story. The U-shaped piece in the middle is a magnet that goes into the donut hole in the fuel filter element. The wings are to hold it in place. Neat idea to catch any tiny iron particles before going into the carb. But those particles would have to be really small. Don't know why this particular housing had one of these. Have no idea if it is GM, but don't know why someone would put this magnet holder in there, but it is clearly manufactured for this purpose. The date on the underside of the lid is 1959.

            Note that the donut element is what you want. It is some sort of fabric under magnification. Some call this a sand filter but I've never seen any made of sand. Imagine sand particles coming off into your carb. That would defeat the purpose of the filter. But if anyone has magnified pics of one that is sand, I'll be glad to take a look.

            Bob

            PS: Attaboy, Bob!
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            • Richard M.
              Super Moderator
              • August 31, 1988
              • 11317

              #7
              Re: Can you ID this Mystery Item? 1.75" along bottom!

              Wow I guess I was about a mile off! Was that a aftermarket accessory? is there a part# on it?

              I believe the filter material is some type of natural or manufactured porous stone. Like lava rock?

              Rich

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              • Dave S.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • August 31, 1992
                • 2922

                #8
                Re: Can you ID this Mystery Item? 1.75" along bottom!

                [QUOTE=Richard Mozzetta (13499);681984]Wow I guess I was about a mile off! Was that a aftermarket accessory? is there a part# on it?

                I believe the filter material is some type of natural or manufactured porous stone. Like lava rock?

                Rich[/QUO
                The filter assembly was a factory part on 2 X 4 cars. The element is a GF 124. GF 124K is configured the same but the color of the filter material is more redish. I've see plenty of them but never noticed the mystery part. Like you Rich I'm now curious so I'll check and NOS piece that i have.

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                • Richard M.
                  Super Moderator
                  • August 31, 1988
                  • 11317

                  #9
                  Re: Can you ID this Mystery Item? 1.75" along bottom!

                  Hi Dave, Yup I knew the glass bowl filter assy was stock, I have a 270hp 2x4 in my '59 with one. I was asking Bob about that bracket thingy.

                  Rich

                  edit......the 58-60 & 61-62 JG says they were a ceramic material.
                  Last edited by Richard M.; October 26, 2013, 07:16 AM.

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                  • Bob B.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • February 28, 2003
                    • 831

                    #10
                    Re: Can you ID this Mystery Item? 1.75" along bottom!

                    Hi all,

                    The mystery magnet has no identification at all. Since it is obviously a manufactured item, you'd think there would be a number of them around.

                    As for the material of the filter element, back in the days of the philosopher kings, on a table, under glass, was a a pile of small clear crystals. The philosopher kings would meet around the table and, of course, philosophize. It was inevitable that the topic of philosophizing always turned to what the crystalline substance was. Generations passed and the debate went on. One camp said the crystalline substance must be sugar and was therefore sweet. Another maintained that it was salt and therefore salty. Yet another insisted that it was sand and therefore had no taste at all. Finally, one day one of the philosopher kings lifted up the glass and tasted the crystalline substance and science was born.

                    The moral to this story? Just look at the filter element material under magnification and yet another mystery will be solved by science!

                    Bob

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