Barrett Jackson & Matching #'s

[Mike L.]

Does Barrett Jackson authenticate matching #'s on cars where the sellers say they're matching #'s?

[Michael W.]

Re: Barrett Jackson & Matching #'s

You'll have to first come up with a definition of 'matching numbers' that all involved parties understand and agree upon. Not trying to be a smart as* but that's a meaninglessness term these days.

[Mike L.]

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Agreed, but Barrett Jackson and the sellers are making more money on each vehicle using the term "matching #'s", so doesn't BJ have an obligation to authenticate if the term matching #'s is correct?

[Michael J.]

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I believe Roy has been trying to assist BJ to keep things accurate wrt Corvettes.

[Leif A.]

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All that term means is that the VIN number on the trim tag matches the VIN number on the engine block pad and the transmission, etc. It doesn't mean that those parts are original to that car. Many (most) numbers matching car parts are re-stamps...but, they match!! A better term (if you're looking for originality) is "original, born with engine, trans, etc".

[Loren L.]

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I'm sure that you will more than 1 disclaimer in the contract disavowing ANY auction company responsibility. Roy's employment and the validation of any claimed NCRS awards, etc., probably go beyond what other auction company's do.

[Edward C.]

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All that term means in that the VIN number on the trim tag match the VIN number on the engine block pad and the transmission, etc. It doesn't mean that those parts are original to that car. Many (most) numbers matching car parts are re-stamps...but, they match!! A better term (if you're looking for originality) is "original, born with engine, trans, etc".

Not really, it could mean that the CASTING number on the block is correct and the cast date is correct and have NOTHING to do with the vin number being present at all. As Mike W said, the definition depends on whatever the seller wants it to mean. The term could mean anything and the term itself virtually means nothing. And like Mike, not trying to be a butt or argumentative, its just that the term is useless on its own without and supporting information to define its meaning. And it could also mean the seller is just saying that because he hears every other seller say it, just like he might say his car has a no hit body yet it could have been hit by a train in its past. Believe nothing, look at everything.

Bj Buyers will eventually wise up to this. But if they don't, well, who cares. When they go to sell it then they will learn.

[Michael W.]

Re: Barrett Jackson & Matching #'s

All that term means in that the VIN number on the trim tag match the VIN number on the engine block pad and the transmission, etc.

Is this BJ's written definition?

[Michael J.]

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I'm sure that you will more than 1 disclaimer in the contract disavowing ANY auction company responsibility. Roy's employment and the validation of any claimed NCRS awards, etc., probably go beyond what other auction company's do.

Very true, places like Mecum, Russo-Steele, etc. are snake pits.

[Sven C.]

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Was at Mecum auction in Kissimmee last week and spoke to Roy Sinor at his office regarding a Corvette in the auction. He took time out of his day and gave me solid advice....an absolute wealth of knowledge and a class act.

[Rick A.]

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ALL auctions like anything else in life - caveat emptor

[Barry H.]

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Guys, The latest "buzzword" at BJ is "period correct" engine, not be the engine or HP that the car was born with, but was an engine made in the same year as the car. "SAM" Smoke & Mirrors, & What Rick said!
Barry

[Michael J.]

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Well, you can call it lots of things, but the important thing is that the buyer fully and completely understands what they are buying. If that happens, all should be well, no matter what anyone else thinks, it is their choice.

[Michael W.]

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My two favourite descriptions of matching numbers

1) the VIN tag numbers match the pink slip numbers

2) the seller's offer matches what the buyer will accept.

[Mike L.]

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I thank you all for your responses. The reason this issue came up is I found a car on ebay that boasts "matching #'s" so I had one of our NCRS brothers have a look at it. His response was, "take a pass on this car" because the engine stamp looked a little funny. Now I've looked at this engine stamp 10 times and don't see anything wrong with it but then I'm not that experienced with C2 corvettes yet. So now moving forward I was thinking of the Barrett Jackson Auction in Palm Beach because I could probably find an NCRS brother to help me out at that auction. Thoughts???