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  • Jim D.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • June 30, 1985
    • 2884

    #16
    Re: Crushed

    Originally posted by Mike Eby (55078)
    When I buy a used car I always look at the CarFax, I assume many folks are like me. If the car doesn't have a spotless record I move on.
    Mike
    You have a false sense of security if you rely on a CarFax report. If you research them, you'll find out they are nothing more than a third party that tries to buy info. from dealers/repair facilities/insurance co.'s etc. There are NO standards or requirements for anyone to report anything to them. Many repair facilities totally disregard any inquiry by them because they are nothing more than your common phone solicitors and a major PIA. The only ones that seem to "BUY" into them is insurance companies because they pay big $$$$ for that info. hoping to recoup it when you buy one of their reports.

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    • Michael F.
      Very Frequent User
      • January 1, 1993
      • 745

      #17
      Re: Crushed

      wow, very sorry to hear this, good luck with the fix
      Michael


      70 Mulsanne Blue LT-1
      03 Electron Blue Z06

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      • Mike E.
        Very Frequent User
        • June 24, 2012
        • 920

        #18
        Re: Crushed

        Originally posted by Jim Durham (8797)
        You have a false sense of security if you rely on a CarFax report. If you research them, you'll find out they are nothing more than a third party that tries to buy info. from dealers/repair facilities/insurance co.'s etc. There are NO standards or requirements for anyone to report anything to them. Many repair facilities totally disregard any inquiry by them because they are nothing more than your common phone solicitors and a major PIA. The only ones that seem to "BUY" into them is insurance companies because they pay big $$$$ for that info.
        Jim I check the car out too for prior damage. I'm pretty good as spotting repairs. If the car was fixed so well that I can't tell so be it. The point is if the car has derogatory data on the CarFax it's a non starter. CarFax, AutoCheck and others also get information from public record Police accident reports. I'm talking about late model used cars not collector cars. There are so many cars being leased then returned simply because the lease is over buying higher end luxury car can be a good value if the car was well taken care of. A few months ago I bought a 3-1/2 year old BMW 550i xDrive with 35K miles that had an MSRP at over $75K, got it for a little over $30K. The previous owner left his bill of sale in the car and he paid $73K + tax. I don't understand how or why folks can afford to loose $40K on a car in 3-1/2 years? We are deviating here from the topic though.

        Mike
        Last edited by Mike E.; June 18, 2015, 09:03 PM.

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        • Jim D.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • June 30, 1985
          • 2884

          #19
          Re: Crushed

          Originally posted by Mike Eby (55078)
          CarFax, AutoCheck and others also get information from public record Police accident reports. I'm talking about late model used cars not collector cars.
          Mike
          Not all, but most non-injury accidents aren't reported to the police. The only info. they could get would be the VIN of the car involved, nothing more. They use that to try to get more info. My wife's new Acura got hit in the parking lot while it was parked so I paid for the repair out of pocket. I asked my buddy that owns the auto body shop if this would show up on any report. I can't repeat what he said without be censored but needless to say, it won't show up on any report and neither will ANY car that goes through his shop.

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          • Frank D.
            Expired
            • December 27, 2007
            • 2703

            #20
            Re: Crushed

            Originally posted by Jim Durham (8797)
            Not all, but most non-injury accidents aren't reported to the police. The only info. they could get would be the VIN of the car involved, nothing more. They use that to try to get more info. My wife's new Acura got hit in the parking lot while it was parked so I paid for the repair out of pocket. I asked my buddy that owns the auto body shop if this would show up on any report. I can't repeat what he said without be censored but needless to say, it won't show up on any report and neither will ANY car that goes through his shop.
            When my daughter traded in her 2003 PT Cruiser after driving it for 13 years; only one of the three accidents (none of them her fault) showed up....I wasn't impressed with CarFax...

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            • Tony S.
              NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
              • April 30, 1981
              • 988

              #21
              Re: Crushed

              Was the header bar in your front end damaged too or can you reuse it? If you can reuse the front header bar you should because the reproductions don't have the same configuration as the original '65 header bars and it's easy to tell the difference. So sorry to hear about your damages, and I hope it works out for you.
              Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
              Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
              Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
              Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
              Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

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              • Walter F.
                Expired
                • October 22, 2006
                • 373

                #22
                Re: Crushed

                I also had a carfax that showed up clean on my daughters Galant and found a bill for $5,000 in the glove box left by the dealer when I bought it. If you don't make a Police report, carfax won't have any info on your car. Carfax also does not have the complete history of your car. My 84's carfax history could only go back to 1992? They had no record of the car's inspection nor the accident it was in from the last owner. I am also convinced the rear of this car was hit and repainted. No info on carfax.

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • February 1, 1988
                  • 43219

                  #23
                  Re: Crushed

                  Originally posted by Bill McMorrow (15609)

                  Hagerty will pick up all costs. When all is said and done they will go after the other drivers insurance company.
                  Bill------


                  This is a process called subrogation. It works to your benefit in many ways. At least in California if it's still the same as it was years ago, when an insurance company submits a reimbursement claim to another at-fault driver's insurance company, they have to pay it as-submitted. If YOU submit the claim to the other insurance company, they can haggle over it. It may or may not be the same in other states.
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • Richard P.
                    Expired
                    • September 29, 2011
                    • 96

                    #24
                    Re: Crushed

                    Just had a recent bad experience with insurance companies and subrogation here in California. While sitting at a light in my Ford 500 I was rear-ended by Range Rover. I filed damage claim with my insurer who paid for the repairs and then recovered my deductible and their cost from the perpetrator's insurance co. through subrogation. All went well. The problem was my personal injury, since I violated the "72 hour" rule (you must seek in person medical care from a Dr. within 72 hours of the accident) my claim was denied by Mid-Century Ins. and its parent, Farmers. The kicker is that insurance companies can't do subrogation on personal injury in the state of California. My insurer couldn't represent me so it was hire a lawyer or nothing. The state insurance dept. was of no help whatsoever. Beware the 72 hour rule and the above ins. companies. If you don't believe me ask your own insurance agent.

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • February 1, 1988
                      • 43219

                      #25
                      Re: Crushed

                      Originally posted by Bill McMorrow (15609)
                      I have photo's but don't know how to post. From 15 feet it does not look so bad but everything dropped 2 " Son was taking car to a show. He stopped at the local mall to pick up a friend he parked away from all cars and was sitting with engine off waiting. Suddenly a truck backs out of space 2 rows away and winds up on top of the car. He leaned on the horn but guy just kept coming.
                      Hagerty will pick up all costs. When all is said and done they will go after the other drivers insurance company. They do not want their customers to have to wait for the long drawn out payment process.

                      Bill------

                      I hope you are getting the straight scoop on how this all occurred. It sounds strange to me. Do you have the information on the other driver?
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • John D.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • December 1, 1979
                        • 5507

                        #26
                        Re: Crushed

                        Bill, I feel for your friend. If it were my car I would just hang on as it's not too difficult to find a NOS gray/black top surround. Corvette Carlisle is in 60 plus days.
                        Try Andy Cannizzo at 732-583-5378. Maybe Dr. Mike who has been MIA here lately??? John

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                        • Bill M.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • July 31, 1989
                          • 1322

                          #27
                          Re: Crushed

                          Tony
                          header bar still good removed the bumpers on Saturday can now drive car around as needed.
                          John I will be looking for parts soon want to see what repair shops have to say.
                          Still have to wait for ins assessment.
                          Bill

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